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Well Roy is another midget center, which isn't what the leafs need, and has taken steps back each of the last two years.

Setoguchi makes a ton of sense for both teams and I'd be all over that. I don't see Burke goingt after Voracek. He's a big body, but he doesn't bring the physical aspect Burke is looking for. And I certainly like Benn a lot more than Neal.
 
Jamie Benn is absolutely terring up the Calder Cup playoffs for the Texas Stars right now with 14 goals and 25 points in 20 games. All of that after his dominant final season in junior with Kelowna, a gold medal for Team Canada at the 2009 World Juniors, and a 22 goal rookie season with Dallas. If you can get him in a package for Kaberle I wouldn't have to think that long or hard before pulling the trigger.
 
When you think about it... for a player who's said repeatedly that he wants to stay in Toronto, Buffalo's a pretty good alternative. It's an easy drive and his wife can stay close to her family. In terms of likelihood to re-sign, I'd say Buffalo's probably up there?
 
My issue with Roy is that I don't know how comfortable I am with having a small 70 pt centre like Roy blocking the development of one of Bozak or Kadri.

Now, if Burke was willing to bend on his 6/6 structure and play Kadri/Bozak in a 3rd line role then I have fewer reasons to not like it, but I don't think he will and if we're trading Kaberle I would rather it be for a winger with 70+ potential.

The name that stands out for me is Voracek. 20 yrs old (21 by training camp), was almost a 2 ppg scorer in the Q in his first post draft season, 50 points in his sophomore NHL season as a 20 yr old. 6'2 215 with just solid, solid tools overall.

That's the type of kid we need if we're flipping Kaberle, someone who can turn into a legitimate star down the road.
 
Looking around the league at what other teams' fans are saying about these rumours, most of them seem to think there's not a snowball's chance in hell Kaberle would get any of those players...

I'm curious as to what they actually think Kaberle could get.
 
Why would Burke want to deal Kaberle to Buffalo? We're already having a hard time beating them with Miller, adding Kabs to the sabres will just put them over the top. If they get Kaberle, I think its a safe bet that the guy will come back to haunt us. I can see him getting a PPG in 6 games next season when the sabres vs the leafs. If were trading Kabs, odds are it's to a western conference team which Burke is more familiar with, a team we won't face more then 2 times a year, a team that is willing and able to offer up a big sized scoring winger and late round 1st rounder. I can see San Jose having big interest in him espcially if they don't resign Blake. Leafs trading Kabs to Buffalo for Roy makes no sense:

1) Roy is a skilled but very small centre

2) Burke's looking for a big scoring winger, Buffalo isnt offering us that

3) Buffalo plays in the same division as the leafs, we play them 6 times a year

4) Were trying to climb ahead of Buffalo, not help Buffalo become the better team, giving the sabres Kaberle automatically makes them a better team

5) We have too many centres right now, we need major help on the wing, espically if Kulemin ends up walking.

6) Kessel needs a powerfoward winger next to him to give him space to use his speed and open up his shot. Buffalo isn't offering us a guy like that.
 
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Ian White

When and not if Kaberle gets traded, do u guys think it would be a good idea for Burke to make sign White to a cheap offer sheet, and give up a late round pick for him? I mean Whites a decent puckmoving defencmen who can help replace Kaberle's speed and puck moving abilities, plus he's dirt cheap. Would you guys pull the trigger?
 
Re: Ian White

He put up 40 points this year, he's not going to be dirt cheap. He also doesn't really replace what Kabby brings where they would need to replace him...the PP.
 
Re: Ian White

I wouldnt. Defense is not really a priority going into next year.

Give me more top 6 forwards please.
 
Hoss said:
Erikson has had two damn good years, I wonder what made it click for him. He doesn't give us that power forward option... but he's 24 and can put the puck in the net. 71 and 63 point seasons... that's pretty hard to pass up.

Setoguchi is interesting as they may spend most of their bucks on Pavelski and see the need to replace Blake.... he's also two years younger than Pavelski (bigger as well)

I don't know much about Voracek to comment.
Roy is a good centre (consistently in the 40+ assists) maybe a good fit for Kessel
Pomminville is 27

I would love to see Burke make some huge play with Dallas to get Neal and Erickson for Kabs and Gus???

Power forward check, pure goal scorer to compliment Kessel check...
go with Giggy and the finnish monster (he was compared to Niemi)
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Myabe the Stars will toss in a couple 1sts and throw Lehtonen back at you guys too since they are getting Gus.
 
MindzEye said:
My issue with Roy is that I don't know how comfortable I am with having a small 70 pt centre like Roy blocking the development of one of Bozak or Kadri.

Now, if Burke was willing to bend on his 6/6 structure and play Kadri/Bozak in a 3rd line role then I have fewer reasons to not like it, but I don't think he will and if we're trading Kaberle I would rather it be for a winger with 70+ potential.

The name that stands out for me is Voracek. 20 yrs old (21 by training camp), was almost a 2 ppg scorer in the Q in his first post draft season, 50 points in his sophomore NHL season as a 20 yr old. 6'2 215 with just solid, solid tools overall.

That's the type of kid we need if we're flipping Kaberle, someone who can turn into a legitimate star down the road.
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Damn rights. Voracek is a star in the making. If the Leafs could land him for Kaberle they should do it IMO. I would love to get that guy in Montreal.
 
MindzEye said:
The name that stands out for me is Voracek. 21 yrs old, was almost a 2 ppg scorer in the Q in his first post draft season, 50 points in his sophomore NHL season as a 20 yr old. 6'2 215 with just solid, solid tools overall.
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Most importantly with Voracek's numbers, is to recognize the context with which he's put them up...

Year one he's playing on the 3rd line gettng 12:39 a night (least TOI of the 3 linemates)..and still produces at a 40 pt pace as a 19 yr old.

Year 2 he gets bumped to the second line, but only sees 3 more mins a game, playing 15:37 a night (again the least TOI of the 3 linemates)....with 2:25 of it coming on the PP...With that slight increase in playing time he nearly doubled his goal total, and finished with 50 pts .

In a year or two when this kid is getting 18-20 minutes a night playing on a first line, playing 3.5 mins on the PP?...he'll easily be a PPG player.

Agree 100% this is the kind of kid we need to target in a Kaberle deal.
 
Re: Ian White

Without Kaberle, the Leafs don't need to add any defensemen. They're fine in that area with Tomas. They need to concentrate on getting more top 6 forwards.
 
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