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I don't know if its Boston "needs" to move Savard as much as they "want" to move Savard.

yeah -- but that's just it

if they're talking about getting a bunch of 4th liners and b or c prospects then they might as well just hold onto him and see if he rebounds. the worst case scenario would be that he continues to be an injury prone 60-70 point centre. if that's what he is... they'll still be able to trade him for a pile of crap. becuase $4mn is more than reasonable for a player like that.

but it's more likely that he rebounds and his numbers go back up to the 80 point range. and if he does (and stays healthy) then it would be f'ing stupid to trade him for a bag of pucks.

that just isn't going to happen right now. i'd love to get savard for garbage like mitchell and stefanovich, but it's beyond unlikely.


and hl.. i know bobby mac has a nice track record and more respectability than a lot of others. but rumours and inside 'scoops' are sexy these days and that's what sells. over the past two years he has become just as guilty of silly rumour mongering as any of the others..... even if his sources tend to be more relaible.
 
Yeah, there is zero chance the Bruins would trade for the Spaz. It would take another team and a separate deal.

It would provide the Senioritas with a better # 1 center, at what, a 40% discount? So I can see them having interest in this.

M.E. makes a good point though - there are serious time constraints here for Ottawa.

I could see Atlanta or the STL as potential destinations for Spezza. They have the cap space, it would just be a matter of getting the okay to spend.
 
Well, maybe Boston knows more about Savard's concussion problem than us. Maybe they just want to unload Savard to clear the cap space so they can go after another big name (Kovalchuk / Spezza?)

Who knows? I mean, I agree it'd be dumb for BOS to give away Savard for spare parts, but stranger things have happened.

I mean, didn't we give away Kubina for spare parts too? And Kubina was a top unit defenseman for Atlanta.
 
Dude, Kaberle's value is 10x Savard's right now. I don't know why anyone would even THINK that that would be a possibility.

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Why's that? Cause he is a year younger? You can't claim that his contract is better either. 4 years of Savard>>>>> 1 year of Kaberle.
 
Well, maybe Boston knows more about Savard's concussion problem than us. Maybe they just want to unload Savard to clear the cap space so they can go after another big name (Kovalchuk / Spezza?)

Who knows? I mean, I agree it'd be dumb for BOS to give away Savard for spare parts, but stranger things have happened.

I mean, didn't we give away Kubina for spare parts too? And Kubina was a top unit defenseman for Atlanta.

kubina was a #2 or #3 defenseman signed to a one year deal at an inflated salary.......... not one of the five or six highest scoring players in hockey over the past five seasons, earning just over (based on his cap hit) half of what comparable producers earn.
 
Patrol, you're off your rocker. Savard and our 2011 1st back still isn't fair value for Kaberle.

And anyone thinking Savard is gonna get any more than spare parts back, you're out to lunch too.

I was admittedly going too far including Finger in my first proposal, but Grabo, Paradis/Caputi, and a 4th for Savard and a 2nd is the type of deal you'll see.
 
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Remember, Savard new ext' is really only 4 yrs not the 7 portrayed. With just 2.5M owed last 3 yrs, he'll retire before even playing them.

Ding ding ding ding.... we have a winner.
That contract was specifically designed to give a low cap hit and Savard would retire with 3 years left on it... possibly he'd stick around for the $1.5mil year if he was still useful.
 
Why would Boston do the Leafs a favour by giving them the top C they desperately need, when it is in their best interest to screw them over and get another lottery pick?

The Leafs overpay or they don't get Savard.

Sorry but you got that wrong. The bruins overpay or they don`t get rid of savard.
 
Patrol, you're off your rocker. Savard and our 2011 1st back still isn't fair value for Kaberle.

And anyone thinking Savard is gonna get any more than spare parts back, you're out to lunch too.

I was admittedly going too far including Finger in my first proposal, but Grabo, Paradis/Caputi, and a 4th for Savard and a 2nd is the type of deal you'll see.

That makes no sense at all... you're off your rocker.

Savard>Kaberle

Why would Boston take a pile of garbage for a 90+ point center who has probably the best contract in the league? And on top of that they're going to add a 2nd round pick?
 
yeah -- but that's just it

if they're talking about getting a bunch of 4th liners and b or c prospects then they might as well just hold onto him and see if he rebounds. the worst case scenario would be that he continues to be an injury prone 60-70 point centre. if that's what he is... they'll still be able to trade him for a pile of crap. becuase $4mn is more than reasonable for a player like that.

but it's more likely that he rebounds and his numbers go back up to the 80 point range. and if he does (and stays healthy) then it would be f'ing stupid to trade him for a bag of pucks.

that just isn't going to happen right now. i'd love to get savard for garbage like mitchell and stefanovich, but it's beyond unlikely.


and hl.. i know bobby mac has a nice track record and more respectability than a lot of others. but rumours and inside 'scoops' are sexy these days and that's what sells. over the past two years he has become just as guilty of silly rumour mongering as any of the others..... even if his sources tend to be more relaible.

The issue for me when I look at the Bruins roster and try to figure out Chia's motivation here is actually pretty simple.

Currently the B's have 4 centres who can centre the 3rd line or higher. If Segiun has a strong rookie year and looks like a legit top 6 centre by years end, they can let Bergeron walk. Krejci had a very strong playoff after a pretty predictable sophomore slump.

For this season, the B's, even without Savard would be fairly strong up the middle, with 3 talented centres capable for at least 50+ points. They do however, have a pretty serious deficiency on the blueline and no cap space to fix it with (again)

Chiarelli has had Tim Thomas on the market now for a few weeks and has probably received next to zero interest (at the very least, there hasn't been a single rumour linking Thomas to any other team to my knowledge). If he's unable to unload Thomas, and feels that he needs help on the blueline, the addition of Seguin, coupled with the injury and uncertain long term status of Savard makes Savard the next name on the list of guys to try to move.

For a pure salary dump, it makes sense. It's not a good move when you look at it in an isolated sense, but when viewed within a larger framework it does make sense. It's not a move you ever want to be in the position to have to make as a GM, you would obviously rather move Thomas or Ryder.
 
Ding ding ding ding.... we have a winner.
That contract was specifically designed to give a low cap hit and Savard would retire with 3 years left on it... possibly he'd stick around for the $1.5mil year if he was still useful.

It's never a good sign when you're on the same page as Kypreos. Step away, get some sunshine, mohn.

Just take a look at who keeps playing in the league for that amount at greybeard ages. The cap hit is 7 years and you can't bank on a guy retiring early to forgo millions of dollars.
 
It's never a good sign when you're on the same page as Kypreos. Step away, get some sunshine, mohn.

Just take a look at who keeps playing in the league for that amount at greybeard ages. The cap hit is 7 years and you can't bank on a guy retiring early to forgo millions of dollars.

Ummm... he'd be forgoing $0.525 a year for the last 2 years... there is no way in hell he's sticking around for that money. There's a reason they front loaded that contract.
 
again Boston doesn't need to trade Savard, they want to trade him...for whatever reason, injury, roster flexibility, etc...
 
Ummm... he'd be forgoing $0.525 a year for the last 2 years... there is no way in hell he's sticking around for that money. There's a reason they front loaded that contract.

I definitely hope they clean up that loophole in the next CBA.
 
When the cap floor is up over $50 million in 4 years, there will be a bunch of teams who would love a player that they only have to pay 500k, but costs $4 mil against the cap.

Even if he doesn't retire, its really not an issue.

He'll probably still be an effective player anyway.
 
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