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Friedman on Savard...


15. Here's why the Marc Savard-to-Toronto rumours don't make a lot of sense to me: If you're Peter Chiarelli, why help the Maple Leafs when you've got their first-round pick next year? Maybe Savard costs you a couple of spots. Meanwhile, if you're Brian Burke, do you really want to help the Bruins?

16. A rebuttal from another GM on the question about Chiarelli: "You have to worry about your team first. If getting him off your roster is that important to you, you do it, even if it helps someone else."

17. It's been reported that Savard must submit a list of five teams he will accept a trade to on July 1. That's not true. He has a full no-trade clause until July 1, 2011 - when it becomes limited. Right now, he's only agreed to go to Toronto and Ottawa.

18. Dany Heatley was ripped for signing a no-trade contract, demanding to leave and then blocking one deal. I get that. No problem. So, why is it ok for Marc Savard to sign a cap-friendly extension with similar protection, only to be asked to waive six months later? That's not right. The Game 7 aftermath, where Savard was fingered as the too-many-men culprit, must be a huge factor in all of this.
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Its possible Kovy pulls a Hossa, and really doesn't care about the money like everyone thinks.

I mean the guy did turn down $100 mill. He ain't getting more than that.
 
Friedman makes a good point on the Savard thing, but if Marc handcuffs the Bruins and names 3 other teams that can't acquire him then Chiarelli likely has to bite the bullet and deal him to the Leafs.

This seems to be a game of chicken between Savard and the Bruins. One of which i can't see the Bruins winning. Burke sitting back and waiting is the correct decision
 
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It's hard to picture Burke parting with Kabs and Schenn in the same deal.

But Kabs and Beauchemin - sending the latter back to Anaheim - makes a whole lot of sense.
 
Even Kaberle and Schenn....I'm not sure thats enough for me to give up Ryan if i am Anaheim. Not unless i know i'm getting more than 1 year of TK.
 
Come on. They get two stud talents for one.

That's more than enough.

Ryan's not exactly a future Hart Trophy candidate.
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
Friedman makes a good point on the Savard thing, but if Marc handcuffs the Bruins and names 3 other teams that can't acquire him then Chiarelli likely has to bite the bullet and deal him to the Leafs.

This seems to be a game of chicken between Savard and the Bruins. One of which i can't see the Bruins winning. Burke sitting back and waiting is the correct decision
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Pretty much how I see it.

If Chia needs that cap space in the near future the Leafs are his only real option.
 
zeke said:
Come on. They get two stud talents for one.

That's more than enough.

Ryan's not exactly a future Hart Trophy candidate.
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Exactly. Very good player, but not a Hart candidate. I am not sure I'd overpay to get him.

Right now we got Kaberle at a very reasonable $4.25M, and Schenn's cheap, and will be cheap for a few more years. If we replace them with an overpaid Hamhuis and say, Martin, not only you downgrade in quality, you also pay more.

I just don't think Ryan alone justifies that. Anaheim's gotta throw in a bit more for me to pull trigger on that trade that sends 2 of my top 4 to them.
 
number17 said:
Exactly. Very good player, but not a Hart candidate. I am not sure I'd overpay to get him.

Right now we got Kaberle at a very reasonable $4.25M, and Schenn's cheap, and will be cheap for a few more years. If we replace them with an overpaid Hamhuis and say, Martin, not only you downgrade in quality, you also pay more.

I just don't think Ryan alone justifies that. Anaheim's gotta throw in a bit more for me to pull trigger on that trade that sends 2 of my top 4 to them.
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i maintain...If Kaberle agrees to sign long term in Anaheim it's a fine deal. If not then i don't but it for the Ducks. 1 year of Kaberle isnt going to do much for them, and Schenn isnt enough to land Ryan.

Maybe i simply think too much of Ryan?

THat being said i think Murray is a dingleberry for not inking him already.
 
Volcanologist said:
Pretty much how I see it.

If Chia needs that cap space in the near future the Leafs are his only real option.
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Isn't it ironic we were in the same situation last year with Kessel? ;)

Burke ended up throwing in an extra 1st than what he needed to do in the offer sheet. Some called it 'not burning the bridges'.

Whatever it is, we'll see what happens this year. I guess a difference is last year Burke was VERY interested in Kessel. THis year, I am not sure about his interest level.
 
number17 said:
Exactly. Very good player, but not a Hart candidate. I am not sure I'd overpay to get him.

Right now we got Kaberle at a very reasonable $4.25M, and Schenn's cheap, and will be cheap for a few more years. If we replace them with an overpaid Hamhuis and say, Martin, not only you downgrade in quality, you also pay more.

I just don't think Ryan alone justifies that. Anaheim's gotta throw in a bit more for me to pull trigger on that trade that sends 2 of my top 4 to them.
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Would you do it for Perry??..

Ryan has more upside as a goal scorer, but Perry is bonafide.
 
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