goleafsgo89
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I'm pretty sure THIS is what you read.
http://twitter.com/MiniPMcGuire
The real Pierre hasn't reported a thing.
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I'm pretty sure THIS is what you read.
http://twitter.com/MiniPMcGuire
The real Pierre hasn't reported a thing.
hockeylover
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=nc-leafskaberle081110
So... Kaberle's agent seems to be getting peeved.
“If it happens, it happens,” Kaberle’s agent, Rick Curran, said Wednesday. “We’re all big boys. He gave it as good a run as he could. At this point, does he anticipate or expect to be traded? Yeah. He does. He’s not naïve. He’s been around long enough, been a Toronto Maple Leaf long enough, to know that anything could happen in Leafland.”
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“The only thing that Tomas gets upset about is this,” Curran said. “For anyone who knows him, he’s a very quiet, laid-back, conservative young man. He has made it very clear what his intentions are. He wants to stay in Toronto. He recognizes that he’s a chattel, that he can be moved. If that’s the case, then move him.
“What he does not appreciate, what he does not enjoy, is being front-page topic of conversation every time Brian decides that he’s got to churn the waters a little bit in order to create a little interest.
“That’s fine. Pick up the phone and call your general manager colleagues. Talk to them about it. But don’t make him front-page news. He didn’t ask for it. He realizes that it’s part of it, of being a Toronto Maple Leaf, but don’t ask him to sit back and enjoy it.”
Burke seemed taken aback by Curran’s comments. He said Curran did not bring up these concerns when they spoke Monday. (Curran said he appreciated that Burke called Monday to give him an update. He said it was the first time they had talked since before the trade deadline. Both men go way back and otherwise complimented each other.)
“I will address [his concerns] with him personally,” Burke said. “I have no desire to escalate this. But the fact is: He drafted this clause. This no-trade and the timing of it, this isn’t my handiwork. I’m dealing with what I inherited. And so if he doesn’t like the fact that it puts his client in this position, he can certainly accept some of the blame. I don’t have to.”
Curran negotiated this contract with former Leafs GM John Ferguson Jr. He said Kaberle gave him simple instructions at the time.
“He said, ‘I love Toronto. I love being a Leaf. I have no interest in going anywhere else. I believe that the team will eventually put things together and be a winner. I can’t imagine another city being more exciting than Toronto if you have a winning team,’ ” Curran said. “He said, ‘I want to be here for it.’ ”
Curran said Kaberle accepted a deal – his salary is $4.25-million (U.S.) this year – “making sure that he could stay in Toronto and that no one at any time would suggest that he’s an economic liability.”
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“Over the last two or three years, it’s been brought to my attention that he had the ability to move somewhere but he’d have to approve, and each and every time, he said, ‘I don’t want to leave Toronto,’ ” Curran said. “Many of his friends, his colleagues, in some cases ourselves, we would talk about whether it might be in his best interest. He would continue to say, ‘I made a commitment to Toronto. It’s where I want to stay.’ ”
Curran said two seasons ago, the Leafs asked him for a list of teams to which Kaberle would accept a trade before the deadline. He provided a list. He said they asked for another list last season, but this time he said no. He said he did tell a Leafs official he would talk to Kaberle about a couple of teams, “but that is not a list, unlike what Brian suggested in his press conference following the trade deadline last year.”
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“There’s no zeal to move the player,” Burke said. “There’s no desire to move the player. But there is an obligation, I think. I think I’m obligated to exploit this and explore this and see. Can we upgrade the forward group with something that makes sense? So that’s what we’re doing. We’re listening.”
“The deadline is Sunday, and I don’t expect to see anyone’s best cards until probably Friday,” Burke said. “That being said, the offers improved dramatically over the weekend. We’re at a double-digit number of teams that are in. Unilaterally, without any phone calls from us, two teams dramatically improved their offer over the weekend. It’s going the way I thought it would go.”
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“I would think that the club that’s going to acquire Tomas, to give up that asset value, would want to be assured that they’re getting more than a one-year hockey player,” Curran said. “As required, he will definitely report to whomever it is that trades for his playing rights as long as they understand they have a one-year hockey player. So whatever it is they’re about to give up in asset value, they better gauge it accordingly.”
The Leafs could give a suitor permission to talk to Kaberle about an extension. Curran said that has not happened, but if it does, “any conversation with regard to an extension would obviously be relative to where it is, who it is and how Tomas would feel about going to that place.”
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Curran also said the Leafs already have asked if he would discuss an extension for Kaberle if there is no trade.
“Of course, I would,” Curran said. “Why would I not? It’s not like he wanted to leave Toronto. Every time he’s asked, he’s said, ‘I’d like to stay in Toronto.’ ”
Why does Kaberle love Toronto so much? Why would he want to stay when the talk is so often about his departure?
“That’s the kind of kid that he is,” Curran said. “He’s not a carpetbagger. He’s not looking to go running around for the big money anywhere or anything. And again, it’s kind of one of the reasons why he’s just so disappointed at the way things are going.
“He’s only human. At some point, even he would probably say, ‘Okay.’ ”
Curran sighed.
“At some point,” Curran said, “if they want to move him and they do move him, even he has to resign himself to, ‘Fine, you don’t have me to whack around any more. I’m gone.’ ”
So... Kaberle's agent seems to be getting peeved.
“If it happens, it happens,” Kaberle’s agent, Rick Curran, said Wednesday. “We’re all big boys. He gave it as good a run as he could. At this point, does he anticipate or expect to be traded? Yeah. He does. He’s not naïve. He’s been around long enough, been a Toronto Maple Leaf long enough, to know that anything could happen in Leafland.”
...
“The only thing that Tomas gets upset about is this,” Curran said. “For anyone who knows him, he’s a very quiet, laid-back, conservative young man. He has made it very clear what his intentions are. He wants to stay in Toronto. He recognizes that he’s a chattel, that he can be moved. If that’s the case, then move him.
“What he does not appreciate, what he does not enjoy, is being front-page topic of conversation every time Brian decides that he’s got to churn the waters a little bit in order to create a little interest.
“That’s fine. Pick up the phone and call your general manager colleagues. Talk to them about it. But don’t make him front-page news. He didn’t ask for it. He realizes that it’s part of it, of being a Toronto Maple Leaf, but don’t ask him to sit back and enjoy it.”
Burke seemed taken aback by Curran’s comments. He said Curran did not bring up these concerns when they spoke Monday. (Curran said he appreciated that Burke called Monday to give him an update. He said it was the first time they had talked since before the trade deadline. Both men go way back and otherwise complimented each other.)
“I will address [his concerns] with him personally,” Burke said. “I have no desire to escalate this. But the fact is: He drafted this clause. This no-trade and the timing of it, this isn’t my handiwork. I’m dealing with what I inherited. And so if he doesn’t like the fact that it puts his client in this position, he can certainly accept some of the blame. I don’t have to.”
Curran negotiated this contract with former Leafs GM John Ferguson Jr. He said Kaberle gave him simple instructions at the time.
“He said, ‘I love Toronto. I love being a Leaf. I have no interest in going anywhere else. I believe that the team will eventually put things together and be a winner. I can’t imagine another city being more exciting than Toronto if you have a winning team,’ ” Curran said. “He said, ‘I want to be here for it.’ ”
Curran said Kaberle accepted a deal – his salary is $4.25-million (U.S.) this year – “making sure that he could stay in Toronto and that no one at any time would suggest that he’s an economic liability.”
...
“Over the last two or three years, it’s been brought to my attention that he had the ability to move somewhere but he’d have to approve, and each and every time, he said, ‘I don’t want to leave Toronto,’ ” Curran said. “Many of his friends, his colleagues, in some cases ourselves, we would talk about whether it might be in his best interest. He would continue to say, ‘I made a commitment to Toronto. It’s where I want to stay.’ ”
Curran said two seasons ago, the Leafs asked him for a list of teams to which Kaberle would accept a trade before the deadline. He provided a list. He said they asked for another list last season, but this time he said no. He said he did tell a Leafs official he would talk to Kaberle about a couple of teams, “but that is not a list, unlike what Brian suggested in his press conference following the trade deadline last year.”
...
“There’s no zeal to move the player,” Burke said. “There’s no desire to move the player. But there is an obligation, I think. I think I’m obligated to exploit this and explore this and see. Can we upgrade the forward group with something that makes sense? So that’s what we’re doing. We’re listening.”
“The deadline is Sunday, and I don’t expect to see anyone’s best cards until probably Friday,” Burke said. “That being said, the offers improved dramatically over the weekend. We’re at a double-digit number of teams that are in. Unilaterally, without any phone calls from us, two teams dramatically improved their offer over the weekend. It’s going the way I thought it would go.”
...
“I would think that the club that’s going to acquire Tomas, to give up that asset value, would want to be assured that they’re getting more than a one-year hockey player,” Curran said. “As required, he will definitely report to whomever it is that trades for his playing rights as long as they understand they have a one-year hockey player. So whatever it is they’re about to give up in asset value, they better gauge it accordingly.”
The Leafs could give a suitor permission to talk to Kaberle about an extension. Curran said that has not happened, but if it does, “any conversation with regard to an extension would obviously be relative to where it is, who it is and how Tomas would feel about going to that place.”
...
Curran also said the Leafs already have asked if he would discuss an extension for Kaberle if there is no trade.
“Of course, I would,” Curran said. “Why would I not? It’s not like he wanted to leave Toronto. Every time he’s asked, he’s said, ‘I’d like to stay in Toronto.’ ”
Why does Kaberle love Toronto so much? Why would he want to stay when the talk is so often about his departure?
“That’s the kind of kid that he is,” Curran said. “He’s not a carpetbagger. He’s not looking to go running around for the big money anywhere or anything. And again, it’s kind of one of the reasons why he’s just so disappointed at the way things are going.
“He’s only human. At some point, even he would probably say, ‘Okay.’ ”
Curran sighed.
“At some point,” Curran said, “if they want to move him and they do move him, even he has to resign himself to, ‘Fine, you don’t have me to whack around any more. I’m gone.’ ”
JaysCyYoung
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I'll admit: I'm sick and tired of guys like Salming, Sittler, Sundin, and Gilmour ended up elsewhere when they should end their careers as Leafs. Kaberle is in the same boat for me.
LeafGm
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Amen to that, Jays. I thought that Sundin would be the guy to break the streak of long-time Leafs (captains in particular) finishing their careers in a different jersey. But then I didn't count on Peddie jettisoning Quinn, and then hiring the idiot who reduced the team to a pile of trash that had to be rebuilt from the ground up, pushing Sundin out of town.
I'll be thrilled if the clock strikes midnight on August 15th, and Kaberle is still a Leaf.
I'll be thrilled if the clock strikes midnight on August 15th, and Kaberle is still a Leaf.
hockeylover
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Unless we're talking about a bonafide star forward, I'd like to hang on to him too. I liked his quote here:
“He said, ‘I love Toronto. I love being a Leaf. I have no interest in going anywhere else. I believe that the team will eventually put things together and be a winner. I can’t imagine another city being more exciting than Toronto if you have a winning team,’ ” Curran said. “He said, ‘I want to be here for it.’ ”
“He said, ‘I love Toronto. I love being a Leaf. I have no interest in going anywhere else. I believe that the team will eventually put things together and be a winner. I can’t imagine another city being more exciting than Toronto if you have a winning team,’ ” Curran said. “He said, ‘I want to be here for it.’ ”
blkngldbabe
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leafman101
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Hate to say it, but he's done.
goleafsgo89
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It's tough to see articles like that and realize how much the guy would like to stay. However, as much as I'd like for him to stay, I would much rather see this team win a cup, and if we can get players that will make this team better in return for him, I would send him packing in a second.
blkngldbabe
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I SO don't want to see somebody that loyal who truly wants to be here, shipped out. Especially someone who is talented and can help the team. Fussakes.
goleafsgo89
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Why? Because he traded a defenceman in the final year of his contract for a a guy who can net 20+ goals and can throw his weight around? You guys overrate Kaberle so bad.. sure he's a smooth skater who can advance the puck up the ice very nicely, but my god he was awful defensively last year.. he's only getting older and is on the decline.. send him packing while we can get something for him.
leafman101
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It would be a fitting cap to the already disappointing offseason.
johnunit
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I've said it many times, you build a team of 23 guys who truly believe that, and you'll win a lot more than the same caliber of player without that belief.
JaysCyYoung
Legend
Moving on...
hockeylover
Well-known member
DownGoesBrown So Kaberle wants to play in Toronto, but doesn't want people/media to talk about him. In related news, I want a puppy that doesn't poop.
This is kinda true. This is how it works in T.O., especially when you have a NTC that's structured like Kaberle's is.
This is kinda true. This is how it works in T.O., especially when you have a NTC that's structured like Kaberle's is.