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How will we do that? Do we know what is being offered now? How will we know if it goes up or down from an imaginary starting point?

Your contention was that Kaberle is worth more to the Leafs than they could get from another team, and that Burke is full of crap saying the offers are getting significantly better.

When Kaberle is traded, we will see if either or both of those claims are true simply by seeing what Burke got for him.
 
Your contention was that Kaberle is worth more to the Leafs than they could get from another team, and that Burke is full of crap saying the offers are getting significantly better.

Burke is saying what he'd like to see happen. It ignores the fact that Kaberle is willing to sign an extension with them, thus making his value of that of a player on a long-term contract. With Curran stating that Kaberle will be a one year player for all other teams, his value is less to them than the Leafs.

When Kaberle is traded, we will see if either or both of those claims are true simply by seeing what Burke got for him.

How?
Do we know what is currently on the table?

NOPE, so how can we know if the offers went up or not?

We both KNOW that Burke is full of crap and that everything he says to the press, especially in this kind of situation, needs to be taken with shaker full of salt. I really don't know why you are bothering to argue this.
 
I'm not sure that Burke's ever really flat out lied to the press though or at least I can't think of an instance he has while with the Leafs.
 
I'm not sure that Burke's ever really flat out lied to the press though or at least I can't think of an instance he has while with the Leafs.
I don't think he has while in Toronto. But I do remember him repeatedly swearing up and down to the press while he was in Anaheim that there was no truth to the rumours that he'd be leaving Anaheim to accept the GM job in Toronto.
 
Burke is saying what he'd like to see happen. It ignores the fact that Kaberle is willing to sign an extension with them, thus making his value of that of a player on a long-term contract. With Curran stating that Kaberle will be a one year player for all other teams, his value is less to them than the Leafs.

So Burke lies but agents always tell the truth, right? Come on, don't be so naive. This is as much gamesmanship by Curran as anything else.

How?
Do we know what is currently on the table?

NOPE, so how can we know if the offers went up or not?

You seem to be very sure Burke is lying that they went up despite not knowing what the offers are, aren't you?

What the hell difference does it make anyway? The only offer that counts is the one Burke takes. We can then see what the true market value of Kaberle was.
 
So Burke lies but agents always tell the truth, right? Come on, don't be so naive. This is as much gamesmanship by Curran as anything else.

Agents will lie just as readily as GM's. I usually look for who's interest are best served by telling the truth/lying.

Burke gains if he convinces other GM's that there is a feeding frenzy for Kaberle. Therefore he benefits from lying/exagerating.

Curran is serving Kaberle's interests by saying he won't sign an extension with anyone else. This may not be true, but it is consistent with what Kaberle has been saying all along, so I'm inclined to believe him.

You seem to be very sure Burke is lying that they went up despite not knowing what the offers are, aren't you?
They may have gone up, but I'm skeptical and with good reason.

What the hell difference does it make anyway? The only offer that counts is the one Burke takes. We can then see what the true market value of Kaberle was.

Agreed. Just posturing by both sides until then.
 
Why? Because he traded a defenceman in the final year of his contract for a a guy who can net 20+ goals and can throw his weight around?

Yes, because he traded a 32 year old elite offensive defenseman for a 28 year old 2nd line forward.

exactly.
 
One possibility from these comments is to decipher this.

By saying 2 teams have really improved they're offers, and saying he's not expecting the best til Friday. He could be telling the truth. Or this could be an attempt to fabricate a bidding war between teams by indicating that 2 teams are going real strong.

I truly believe Burke has a agenda with every utter he makes to the media.
 
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