trujaysfan
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If aulie keeps playing like he had I would have a hard time believing that he would not be ahead of gunner and lebda for a spot in the lineup
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teeds
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All I know is, Burke is really leaning in on acquiring MORE offence now.
And guess what? This Aulie is an amazing grab from Calgary. Even if Phaneuf never pans out to being all that he can be, maybe this Aulie will turn out to be something special. I think it is cool that he can probably gel with Schenn off ice.
And guess what? This Aulie is an amazing grab from Calgary. Even if Phaneuf never pans out to being all that he can be, maybe this Aulie will turn out to be something special. I think it is cool that he can probably gel with Schenn off ice.
I want a board that has intelligent discussion that's NOT made up bull shit and/or facts with no info or source to ever back it up.
You make stupid outrageous claims and never back it up with a source + it never ends up being true in the end anyways. You're pretty much like eklund and everyone knows he's a joke.
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teeds
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Oh fak off. Guys that know me well here know that I have more sources into the Leafs than most anyone. And certainly more than some poser like Eklund. Did he raise all the money for a place where most of the Leafs hang out? I don't think so.
And quite frankly I don't even pursue most of them any more. Probably has a lot to do with how bad they have been, and also the fact that I don't live in toronto any more.
And quite frankly I don't even pursue most of them any more. Probably has a lot to do with how bad they have been, and also the fact that I don't live in toronto any more.
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teeds
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You sound like Burkes bitch to be quite honest. Rated. Are you his wife?
LeafOfFaith
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Beauch makes Beauch expendable, not Aulie.
LeafOfFaith
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This is maybe the silliest thing you've ever said.
LeafOfFaith
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And done.
Not that I'm in love with Seto, but that'd be a major steal with a ton of upside for us. Not to mention the cap savings. Total rip.
axlsalinger
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There is absolutely nothing elite about this team.
Lots of questions here. Yes, I have friends on the leafs organization through my family.
No, it's not upsetting to hear big names being discussed, when there is any truth to it. It's just enough of the kaberle rumours. You should know Burke isn't shopping kaberle. And yes, we all know kaberle likes Joey N, it's not some type of secret, but we also know that he loves Toronto and has numerous times refused to be traded. This in zero indication that he wants to go to Dallas and asked for a trade.
And name calling? What name did I call you there? Called the rumor BS. Pretty sure that's what we do in this thread. Sensitive much?
Nice of you to want to share, but there has to be more thought into whether it's plausible whatever you're being told. I don't for a second believe that kaberle with his no trade, schemn who Burke in the past has said won't be traded, and kadti which would make 4 of our first rounders in a row Are going to be dealt in a package.
No, it's not upsetting to hear big names being discussed, when there is any truth to it. It's just enough of the kaberle rumours. You should know Burke isn't shopping kaberle. And yes, we all know kaberle likes Joey N, it's not some type of secret, but we also know that he loves Toronto and has numerous times refused to be traded. This in zero indication that he wants to go to Dallas and asked for a trade.
And name calling? What name did I call you there? Called the rumor BS. Pretty sure that's what we do in this thread. Sensitive much?
Nice of you to want to share, but there has to be more thought into whether it's plausible whatever you're being told. I don't for a second believe that kaberle with his no trade, schemn who Burke in the past has said won't be traded, and kadti which would make 4 of our first rounders in a row Are going to be dealt in a package.
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LeafGm
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If Burke gave up any one of Schenn, Kadri or Kaberle in a package for Brad Richards, he'd deserve to be fired on the spot. Impending UFA's do not get that callibre of player in return when they're dealt. They just don't.
I look at Devin Setoguchi, and I see yet another undersized, wanna-be top-six forward that fingers crossed, if we're lucky, may manage to eclipse the 40 or 50 point plateau. And I don't see how that addresses a need for us, helps us build the team or move forward in any meaningful way. And as much as Beauch gets shat on, I don't see how deleting him from the lineup in favour of this guy makes us a better team. I mean, ****, Setoguchi's having such an abysmal start to his season that he's actually tied on the scoresheet with Beauchemin.
If we're going to acquire any more forwards at this point, then we need:
A) Some players with size
B) Someone with legitimate offensive talent
We don't need a Setoguchi when we've already got four of him (Clarke MacArthur, Tyler Bozak, Mikhail Grabovski and Kris Versteeg) in our top-6.
I think what we have here is just a fundamental difference of opinion. You guys see a guy that was drafted in the top-10 five years ago, and who scored 30 goals (one one of the best offensive teams in hockey) a couple of years ago, and you think it's a terrific opportunity to buy low on a player in return for an expendable asset.
I look at Devin Setoguchi, and I see yet another undersized, wanna-be top-six forward that fingers crossed, if we're lucky, may manage to eclipse the 40 or 50 point plateau. And I don't see how that addresses a need for us, helps us build the team or move forward in any meaningful way. And as much as Beauch gets shat on, I don't see how deleting him from the lineup in favour of this guy makes us a better team. I mean, ****, Setoguchi's having such an abysmal start to his season that he's actually tied on the scoresheet with Beauchemin.
If we're going to acquire any more forwards at this point, then we need:
A) Some players with size
B) Someone with legitimate offensive talent
We don't need a Setoguchi when we've already got four of him (Clarke MacArthur, Tyler Bozak, Mikhail Grabovski and Kris Versteeg) in our top-6.
number17
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To be fair, Setoguchi is not Versteeg or MacArthur or Bozak or Grabs. Setoguchi has something that NONE of them, in fact, none of our top 6 has, and that's a big advantage along the board and in the corner. He brings a different skillset.
Kulemin is decent along the board but it's something he needs to continue to work on. None of our top 6 ... in fact, none of our forwards, except Armstrong, is actually strong along the board. Setoguchi has a very strong balance, very good lower body strength and low center of gravity, plus good puck skills in tight corners which make him a good board guy. He's very strong on his skates, almost impossible to knock off the puck, and can stickhandle between legs and sticks in tight corners. He will help in that area.
What hurts him is he's still a 6'0 player and while he can be effective along the board, he's never going to be a big towering power forward who throws devastating hits, or screen so much of the goalie just by standing in front of him.
And on top of all that, Setoguchi has really struggled since beginning of last season. You gotta wonder if his 1 good season was because he played on the Thornton line or not.
I don't mind Setoguchi, as I still see lots of potential. And even if he doesn't pan out as a top line player, he's a good penalty killer and a good 2-way player. It's just that we have to realize 1. he doesn't immediately address our need for a top line forward and 2. he should be traded for at fair market value only, and we don't overpay for him.
But I'm not worried he's another Stempniak, and he's also got much higher potential than MacArthur. SJ traded up to draft him at #8 because of his speed, his excellent shot, his good hand-eye co-ordination around the crease to find loose puck, and also his feisty attitude and his physical game.
Kulemin is decent along the board but it's something he needs to continue to work on. None of our top 6 ... in fact, none of our forwards, except Armstrong, is actually strong along the board. Setoguchi has a very strong balance, very good lower body strength and low center of gravity, plus good puck skills in tight corners which make him a good board guy. He's very strong on his skates, almost impossible to knock off the puck, and can stickhandle between legs and sticks in tight corners. He will help in that area.
What hurts him is he's still a 6'0 player and while he can be effective along the board, he's never going to be a big towering power forward who throws devastating hits, or screen so much of the goalie just by standing in front of him.
And on top of all that, Setoguchi has really struggled since beginning of last season. You gotta wonder if his 1 good season was because he played on the Thornton line or not.
I don't mind Setoguchi, as I still see lots of potential. And even if he doesn't pan out as a top line player, he's a good penalty killer and a good 2-way player. It's just that we have to realize 1. he doesn't immediately address our need for a top line forward and 2. he should be traded for at fair market value only, and we don't overpay for him.
But I'm not worried he's another Stempniak, and he's also got much higher potential than MacArthur. SJ traded up to draft him at #8 because of his speed, his excellent shot, his good hand-eye co-ordination around the crease to find loose puck, and also his feisty attitude and his physical game.
LeafOfFaith
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Whatever you think of Beauch, he is at the end of the day a spare part, because he's not part of the young core, he's signed only through next year, and he's not going to return.
So, rather than trade him at the deadline for a pick next year, it's much wiser to trade him now if you can get a young forward with upside, even if he's smallish, because inherently, it's a good trade, whether or not we get the forward we really want or just one that can slightly improve us up front. He obviously has 30 goal power in him, and trading 1.5 years of Beauch for him makes complete sense.
Later, we can determine whether he too should go or if one of the other small guys should, but for now, when we need offence, can easily replace Beauch on D, and Seto has definite upside and is young and cheaper, it's a trade you make.
Because it's not like we'd be parting with any assets of import long term. We wouldn't be trading a Kadri or Schenn such that we have to hold out for that perfect player or forget it. This is a spare part for a potentially good young player. We don't have to be that discriminating when it comes to Seto, because it really would have no bearing whatsoever on whether we can or will acquire a big, proven offensive talent.
So, rather than trade him at the deadline for a pick next year, it's much wiser to trade him now if you can get a young forward with upside, even if he's smallish, because inherently, it's a good trade, whether or not we get the forward we really want or just one that can slightly improve us up front. He obviously has 30 goal power in him, and trading 1.5 years of Beauch for him makes complete sense.
Later, we can determine whether he too should go or if one of the other small guys should, but for now, when we need offence, can easily replace Beauch on D, and Seto has definite upside and is young and cheaper, it's a trade you make.
Because it's not like we'd be parting with any assets of import long term. We wouldn't be trading a Kadri or Schenn such that we have to hold out for that perfect player or forget it. This is a spare part for a potentially good young player. We don't have to be that discriminating when it comes to Seto, because it really would have no bearing whatsoever on whether we can or will acquire a big, proven offensive talent.
zeke
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This defense corps is elite.
Without Beauch (or Kaberle, or Phaneuf, or Schenn), it is not.
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teeds
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When you say something is BS, it implies the carrier is a bullshitter. I am meeting the guy again today, he and I do a lot of biz, and he is a humungous leaf fan.
Kaberle and Wilson are not a match made in heaven. Kaberle grimaces every time he sees the guy. He is probably NOT going to be here next year. What the heck would make you think KABERLE and his AGENT are NOT already plotting their next destination?
Wouldn't you with a spouse and kids?
If Kaberle gets extra perks and such for leaving that are off the books, so much the better for Kaberle.
Anyways, ITS REAL. And Richards, is YES a UFA, but he is also someone who might get this team WITH Kadri, Kessel and MacArthur, INTO the playoffs.
And has anyone looked at the standings? Tampa Bay WITH Stamkos, Lecavellier, Hedman, and St. Louis in eighth?
Its going to be real TOUGH getting into the playoffs, and BURKE apparently WANTS IN.
My guy says this team WILL be very different by the end of the year. And I believe him.
He is the one who told me about Phaneuf and Stalberg. WHICH NO ONE else here knew. That Phaneuf thought Stalberg was a College Creep who didn't appreciate acid rock.
Kaberle and Wilson are not a match made in heaven. Kaberle grimaces every time he sees the guy. He is probably NOT going to be here next year. What the heck would make you think KABERLE and his AGENT are NOT already plotting their next destination?
Wouldn't you with a spouse and kids?
If Kaberle gets extra perks and such for leaving that are off the books, so much the better for Kaberle.
Anyways, ITS REAL. And Richards, is YES a UFA, but he is also someone who might get this team WITH Kadri, Kessel and MacArthur, INTO the playoffs.
And has anyone looked at the standings? Tampa Bay WITH Stamkos, Lecavellier, Hedman, and St. Louis in eighth?
Its going to be real TOUGH getting into the playoffs, and BURKE apparently WANTS IN.
My guy says this team WILL be very different by the end of the year. And I believe him.
He is the one who told me about Phaneuf and Stalberg. WHICH NO ONE else here knew. That Phaneuf thought Stalberg was a College Creep who didn't appreciate acid rock.
hockeylover
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He's talking about the idea that Stalberg was traded because he hated Phaneuf.
thehabhater
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Only by way of payroll. 18th in Goals against is not elite. Top 10...that's elite.