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Our team is 12 points out after 30 games. Pace that out.

So, if the year is lost anyway, why would it hurt us to trade Beauchemin over Gunnarson?

I would much rather lose one more year of Beauch at 30 years old than another several more years of Gunnar, given that he isn't anywhere near hitting his prime and makes peanuts. Trading Beauch would also likely net more in a trade from a contender looking for experienced help with a short term commitment.

So then, trading Gunnar and keeping Beauch would hurt our team far worse, on several levels.

Unless we're aiming for the Cup this season...
 
Why in the world do you keep Beauch over Gunnar considering we're already likely out of the playoff hunt and given their respective ages and contracts?

Give me just one reason.
 
And I disagree with your assessment on Gunnar. The kid is just barely into his second season and he has shown flashes of being a much better defender than Beauch is.
 
Beauchemin is far, far better than Gunnarsson. Beauchemin will continue to be far, far better than Gunnarsson next year. And the year after.

we have no reason to want to drop in the standings this year.
 
Beauchemin is better than Gunnarson. Neither can skate, but Beauchemin can at least lurch laterally fairly well.
 
Beauchemin is not worth shit to us this year or next.

Gunnar, regardless of if he is as good as Beauchemin now or next year, has a place on our team long term.

Beauchemin will get more in a trade, would give us $3.8M in cap relief, and will start giving away the puck at inopportune moments for another team for the next year and a half.
 
gunnarsson is yet to prove that he's a bona fide nhl defenseman. he has been pretty shitty this year. which is fine, because he's pretty young.... but, yeah, the chances of him becoming a 25+mpg defender on a cup winning team are retardedly unlikely. beauchemin can be rough around the edges but on the whole is a very good defenseman. gunnarsson isn't as good as beauchemin in any facet of the game, nor does he ever project to be.

there's no comparison.
 
there's no comparison because gunnarsson is a bottom pair defender who might, everything falls into place for him, become a #4 defenseman--he has limited puck skills, he isn't a particularly strong skater and he isn't physical--whereas beauchemin is a capable top pairing defenseman. beauchemin makes this team better and trading him would make this team worse from the back end. gunnarsson is completely expendable and, in fact, trading him would likely make this team better over the course of the season by giving aulie, who will be a better defenseman, a chance to play.
 
Gunnarson already is a very serviceable #4, with hardly a significant load of NHL experience under his belt in this, his sophomore season. With more opportunity and minutes, he would only get better. At just barely 24 years old, with 18 points in 66 career games, and a plus rating while playing on two of our worst teams in recent memory, his performance has been great to say the least. He is smart with the puck, he can skate, he has some offensive ability, and he is nowhere near his peak.

Gunnar is a player you promote and reward with greater minutes to see where his true ceiling is. He's a player you keep and develop for the future. Beauchemin is a short term band aid, and not even a great one at that.
 
I don't have an issue with that.

All I'm saying is, given a choice between trading Gunnar or Beauchemin, I would without question prefer to trade the latter.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Gunnarson already is a very serviceable #4, with hardly a significant load of NHL experience under his belt in this, his sophomore season. With more opportunity and minutes, he would only get better. At just barely 24 years old, with 18 points in 66 career games, and a plus rating while playing on two of our worst teams in recent memory, his performance has been great to say the least. He is smart with the puck, he can skate, he has some offensive ability, and he is nowhere near his peak.

Gunnar is a player you promote and reward with greater minutes to see where his true ceiling is. He's a player you keep and develop for the future. Beauchemin is a short term band aid, and not even a great one at that.
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gunnarsson has barely been a serviceable nhl'er this year. he has been a 6th/7th defenseman at best with no real strengths and a few rather large deficiencies... let alone a 'serviceable #4.'

he played well last year.. and he will undoubtedly perform better than he has this year. but this is a pretty limited player.
 
Beauchemin is an excellent NHL defenseman, Gunnarsson is not.

Trading Beauch hurts us considerably, trading Gunnar does not.
 
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