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i mean the guy has 12 points and is a -14 in 47 games since the concussion.

and he was a small, soft, one-dimensional offensive defenseman before that.

so it's not like he's bringing other value to the table.

if he isn't producing he is sort of useless, and he hasn't produced since before getting hurt at the midway point last year.
 
He hasn't really been given the opportunity to produce, but that is kind of the point IMO. The guy isn't a good 3rd pairing dman. If he isn't QBing your PP he doesn't bring a ton of value. He's not a great 5 on 5 player. Historically the majority of his offence comes from the PP.
 
with the prices commanded by defensemen like Carle and Wideman this offseason, I've got no doubt there'll be teams interested in Liles. Philly might be one of them.
 
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with the prices commanded by defensemen like Carle and Wideman this offseason, I've got no doubt there'll be teams interested in Liles. Philly might be one of them.
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Those guys always had value though. Both have been traded for good returns in the past.

I don't think Liles is viewed in the same light around the league. No doubt teams will be interested though.
 
carle and wideman both bring a bit more toughness to the table, thoguh. fairly or not they're viewed as more complete d-men than liles,
 
Yeah, but they aren't 5'10 180. Liles is well below average in terms of size and softness.

I have no doubt that if Liles was 6'0 200 and played like it he wouldn't have been traded for 2nd round picks and signed to bargain contracts. And would likely be in our lineup right now.
 
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Carle and Wideman both got $5 million+ contracts in the free-agency market. That shows a certain demand.

Liles is older, and had that concussion. But he's also only making $3.8. You gotta think that he has got to have some decent value at least.
 
Philly could actually really use Liles. Wonder if they've got any more young forward prospects they want to rid themselves of...
 
I think if you want to get anything more than a pick for Liles you'll have to start playing him and he'll have to start preforming.

Just not the same player this past year and a bit. Injury messed him up bad I guess.
 
Liles can fetch something of value IF he can get back to anything close to his form before his concussion.

But he'll need to get back in the lineup first, and for that to happen he'll need to make smarter decision with the puck. Nobody expects him to start knocking bodies over, but the last month when he played his passes were off, resulting in icing, or the passes would get cut off, or he'd make bad pointless pinches.
 
If he's not playing, nobody is going to commit 3+ years at 3.8M a year for him. You might be able to get a differently bad contract in return, but an offensive non-physical defensemen scoring at a 20-point pace isn't exciting for most teams.
 
I assume anyone interested in him would prefer to send salary away.

That said there are alot of piss poor power plays in the NHL that should take a look.
 
*cough*cough* Rangers *cough*.... of course Torts would have to extend the leash a little...
 
Truth is the Rangers weren't that good last year. Everyone pointed to their D and shot blocking as if that was the main reason for their success and not their goalie posting a .930 save%.
 
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