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I don't buy into this elite center to win a cup crap.

Who was Boston's "elite" center? Who was the Kings'? Kopitar is very good but he is not "elite".

How about teams with Elite Centers that haven't won shit? Tavares is elite. Are they winning the cup this year? Backstrom even has OV. No cup. Tampa bay has Stamkos. No cup since he came on board.

Those that are saying to build the talent around that center are correct.

As for generational centers like Crosby, well that's just unfair.
 
You need to be strong and deep down the middle in order to win. Its a must. Boston proved you can do it without a stud though.

But you do need three good centers. Ideally four.
 
It'd be really nice to see Kadri with Kessel against the other team's best opposition before the season's done. See how he does.
 
Habsy said:
I don't buy into this elite center to win a cup crap.

Who was Boston's "elite" center? Who was the Kings'? Kopitar is very good but he is not "elite".

How about teams with Elite Centers that haven't won shit? Tavares is elite. Are they winning the cup this year? Backstrom even has OV. No cup. Tampa bay has Stamkos. No cup since he came on board.

Those that are saying to build the talent around that center are correct.

As for generational centers like Crosby, well that's just unfair.
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Kopitar is definitely elite. He's better than any forward on the Habs.

Boston has not elite 1st line centre per-se but they have the deepest group of centers in the league.
 
Habsy said:
I don't buy into this elite center to win a cup crap.
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Not sure if you're referring to my postings, but I have not argued that an elite centre is needed. I just want a legit first line capable centre followed by a legit 2nd line centre who can fill in on the top line if needed. Basically, we just need an upgrade over Bozak and a guy that would hold the spot until Kadri is ready for that role and can then possibly replace Grabovski if he doesn't pick up some consistency to get bumped down to the third line or traded.
 
zeke said:
Perry's pretty elite. He's a guy I'd overpay for.

And it gives us a better chance of eventually getting a centre because since these top centres are never available as free agents, with perry in the fold suddenly Kessel, Lupul and JVR become much more tradeable when a centre becomes available in trade.
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It may be good approach to bring Perry in and then use Kessel as a key trade chip to land a solid first line centre.
 
leafman101 said:
22 man roster, and yeah. How much cap space do you want to have? Should we not be spending to the cap like every other good team?
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It reads 21 man roster on the bottom, but checked in and, yeah, it's 22.

600K is too tight. You need wiggle room for a number of potential issues that might arise - a potential need for a veteran backup and maybe another vet for the blueline.

That said, you actually were conservative with the upgrade payments for Kadri, Franson and Kostka ... so you might get some extra wiggleroom, as they probably won't cost all of what you've estimated. Hard to tell though at this stage.

UWHabs post nails the potential problems though when you extend out beyond next season.
 
Kopitar is elite in my books.

Similar style to our own elite center Mats Sundin.

Backstrom hasn't looked Elite since coming back from concussions, but he is definitely a guy to look at as a buy-low candidate if made available. Washington needs to change things up.
 
These media cronies are laughable. Wild speculation is news nowadays. Randy played the shit out of Jake last year and Gardiner produced amazingly well for him. Concussions aren't a joke, I really don't mind them being patient with Jake.
 
I wouldn't use the boston or nj cup blueprint.

You really do need a centre who can put up ppg+ and challenge the top 10 in scoring every year.

thankfully, it looks like we may have one of those guys.
 
I'd give up Nonis' left nut to sign Perry. He is a straight up gangster.

[video=youtube;Ns1QcVLApdk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns1QcVLApdk[/video]
 
I'm not one to try and defend any of these media clowns, especially a bottom of the barrel one, but he does have a point. At this point there is no logical defense of not having Gardiner up and playing before any of Holzer, Fraser, Kostka, Liles or even Gunnarson over him
 
zeke said:
I wouldn't use the boston or nj cup blueprint.

You really do need a centre who can put up ppg+ and challenge the top 10 in scoring every year.

thankfully, it looks like we may have one of those guys.
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+1

Hard to think of a center that is ideal for the Leafs that would be potentially available. The Ducks resigning Getzlaf was a heartbreaker for sure.
 
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