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organicsteroid said:
This is/was a short season. Reimer and Scrivens is NOT a good tandem in a full season. It just isn't. I really cannot believe anyone here really thinks that. MLSE, or most of them don't.
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With games jammed closer together than in a normal season, leading to higher levels of fatigue, I simply don't see the relevance here. If we can upgrade on Scrivens, I'm cool with that. But there's no reason to pay anything of real worth to upgrade our goaltending. It's young, cheap, of good quality and reasonable proven at this point.

And David Clarkson is really close to Wendel Clark
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No, he's really not.
 
If I were Leafs management, I would certainly be looking for an upgrade, a 1B type goalie, to play until Reimer proves that he can play well in a full season. But Bernier makes no sense, since they'd have to trade lots of assets for him, never mind sign him to a deal. My guess is he'd look for a Schneider like deal (4M/yr for 3ish years).

If it were just the money, or just the assets, that might make sense from your end. But it's not worth giving up both.
 
MindzEye said:
With games jammed closer together than in a normal season, leading to higher levels of fatigue, I simply don't see the relevance here. If we can upgrade on Scrivens, I'm cool with that. But there's no reason to pay anything of real worth to upgrade our goaltending. It's young, cheap, of good quality and reasonable proven at this point.



No, he's really not.
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Maybe he means in a father/son fishing trip sort of way.
 
UWHabs said:
If I were Leafs management, I would certainly be looking for an upgrade, a 1B type goalie, to play until Reimer proves that he can play well in a full season. But Bernier makes no sense, since they'd have to trade lots of assets for him, never mind sign him to a deal. My guess is he'd look for a Schneider like deal (4M/yr for 3ish years).

If it were just the money, or just the assets, that might make sense from your end. But it's not worth giving up both.
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were you for or against trading Halak, given that Price hadn't proven he could play well in a full season at that point?
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
At the end of the day, if you still believe in Reimer.....and I see no reason why they would not, Bernier is an upgrade on Scrivens, a backup goalie....and while he may be a big one....I don't think it makes sense to give up significant assets for that upgrade
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Scrivens (26): 32gms, .910sv% (AHL: 94gms, .923sv% --- PLYF: 17gms, .935sv%)
Bernier (24): 62gms, .912sv% (AHL: 115gms, .927sv% --- PLYF: 18gms, .933sv%)
 
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MindzEye said:
Because, when Quick is at his best, he leaves about 15 games a year for his backup. Reimer has still never played more than 40 in a season. At absolute worst (for Bernier) he gets 30-35 games a year in Toronto, with the possibility of outplaying and winning the job from someone who isn't a recent Vezina, Conn Smythe, & Stanley Cup winner.
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Reimer played 52gms in 2010-11, posting a .921sv%, then followed it up with a .920sv% in four world championship games.
 
I am mixed on both Reimer and Scrivens. Like Schenn I think they were rushed, not groomed. Goalies are a funny lot, they can blow out a groin and its akin to a runner blowing out a calf, knee or a ankle.

I think we are very, very weak on the AHL and ECHL levels. Drew Mcintyre? Yikes. Would I like to see Matt Frattin and our first traded for Bernier? Yes and no. Yes if I want a solid pairing of Reimer and Bernier, no if I want to see if Frattin can heal up and play the way he has shown when his knee wasn't bothering him.

And Clarkson IS close to Wendel Clark. And wants to come here. Lets see how that plays out. I hope we sign him, he is a good one. I also am of the mind to keeping Grabovski. Did he underperform this year, in many ways yes, but the guy can put on a show when it counts and drive defences nuts.

U eliminate Bozak, Grabovski and Frattin and I don't know if commentators will make such a big deal out of the Leafs team speed any more. Just me I guess.
 
We had amongst the best goaltending in all of hockey last year. And amongst the youngest, and cheapest.
 
organicsteroid said:
the mind to keeping Grabovski. Did he underperform this year, in many ways yes, but the guy can put on a show when it counts and drive defences nuts.
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Did you watch the playoffs? When it mattered the most he couldn't keep up in the defensive zone, he couldn't produce offense and was our third best centre behind an injured Bozak and a slumping kadri for most of that series.

Opinion has not changed a year and a half ago durin the trade deadline. Wanted him traded. He does do some things well. But don't believe we will win a championship with him as our #2 Center. He just brings down the wingers he plays with.
 
Grabovski was a giant black hole offensively in the playoffs and played far too much. He worked incredibly hard, but that's not enough.
 
Think kadri already replace Grabo as the number 2 last season.

More about replace or keeping Bozak. Get out of that Grabo contract and shift money to the top six forwards and find a appropriate third line centre not making 5 mill a season.
 
Every season you want to get better. Fixing the weakest positions is a good idea IMO, and goaltending is not it. Riding out this drop in salary is not a bad idea either, cap will go up soon enough, let's not be locked into unnecessary contracts.
 
That is true, also keep in mind internal growth is possible as well. Then again there might be some regression as well.

Does Kadri hit a sophomore slump? Is he the real deal? Even after the season he's had i wouldn't be in any hurry to guarantee him anything. He could just as well have a Grabovski-like season and completely f*ck the team if we aren't prepared.

What about Reimer? Same deal.

Or they could take another step forward and push us into elite status.
 
Am I the only one who would love to see us bring Antropov back to slot in as the 3rd line centre? Dude would almost fix our fenwick problems singlehandedly, and would probably come back for **** all.
 
NAyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

That guy has been a bum ever since leaving the Leafs. Not surprising as we have a penchant to overrate our players at times.
 
Leafin' said:
NAyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

That guy has been a bum ever since leaving the Leafs. Not surprising as we have a penchant to overrate our players at times.
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Or you're just an idiot who doesn't watch hockey when the Leafs aren't involved?


Antropov popped 67 points in 76 games the first season after leaving Toronto...his best season as a professional.
 
Antropov has turned into a 40 point player since leaving here, he'd be a good get for a 3rd liner. He'd probably take a discount, his kids still live here.
 
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