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Leafs' Prospect/Marlies Discussion Thread!


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We should leave all our kids in the AHL so that we don't tumble down. Graduating bad, finishing high on lists good.

They shouldn't even be counting Knies and Robertson as prospects. They're NHLers.
 
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Scott Wheeler's top 20 drafted NHL goalie prospects ranking, summer 2024 edition

Full scouting reports for Wheeler's top 20 goalie prospects in the league.
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Wheeler's goalie list....

Hildeby - 20th

At this point it's just kind of hilarious

Current Age - League - Games/SV%

1) Wallstedt - 21 - AHL - 45/.910
2) Askarov - 22 - AHL - 44/.911
3) Fowler - 19 - NCAA - 39/.926
4) Knight - 23 - AHL - 45/.905
5) Levi - 22 - AHL - 26/.927
6) Wolf - 23 - AHL - 36/.922
7) Cossa - 21 - AHL - 40/.913
8) Augustine - 19 - NCAA - 35/.915
9) Comesso - 22 - AHL - 38/.906
10) Hrabal - 19 - NCAA - 30/.912
11) Nabokov - 21 - KHL - 43/.930
12) Lindbom - 21 - SHL - 26/.911
13) Portillo - 23 - AHL - 39/.918
14) Gajan - 20 - USHL - 43/.893
15) Blomqvist - 22 - AHL - 45/.922
16) Annunen - 24 - AHL - 41/.916 - NHL - 14/.928
17) George - 18 - OHL - 56/.907
18) Ivanov - 20 - KHL - 33/.928 - This motherfucker is 5'10
19) Garand - 22 - AHL - 39/.898 - I'm convinced this guy is 1 slot ahead of Hildeby just to troll me.
20) Hildeby - 22 - AHL - 40/.913 - Literally the last goalie ranked

NR) Ahky - 22 - KHL - 17/.921
 
Volcanologist said:
Minten? he's not rated as anything even by Leaf fans let alone anyone else

what a weird choice

I guess Cowan could make some sense, he's the only one with a modicum of rating or hype of the 3
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Hard to call Cowan over rated when the Athletic prospect list just came out and had him 47th. Someone would need their fucking head examined if they thought 47th is over rating Cowan. There's a good argument to have him in the high teens ffs.
 
MindzEye said:
Hard to call Cowan over rated when the Athletic prospect list just came out and had him 47th. Someone would need their fucking head examined if they thought 47th is over rating Cowan. There's a good argument to have him in the high teens ffs.
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High teens is a bit of a stretch. I have Cowan as an offensive 3rd liner with potential to be a 2nd liner winger. Don't think the play is dynamic enough for PP1, but PP2 for sure...I had him as Hyman-lite last year before Hyman went supernova. Average year: 40pt floor as third liner, 60pts if he hits with 70pt career year. Comparable players (points wise, not style/size wise) I have range from Daze to Hoffman to Mangiapane with some third liners mixed in. The outlier comparison is Mark Recchi, which would be nice, but there's about ten 45-60 pt guys for the one Recchi, and a lot of luck is needed for that to happen. So...60% third liner, 30% second liner, 10% star.

Anyway, given the list, I wouldn't have him above Yurov or Guenther (30/31) who are both playing and excelling against men, maybe Snuggerud or McrGroarty, in the mid-30's, but their ceilings could be 1st liners. Definitely ahead of MBN at 39, around the Kulich area is where I'd have him. So 8 higher...splitting hairs at that point. Mind you, the two guys around him (Nadeau and Ritchie) I have higher as well, so I'll chalk that up to Wheeler-isms.
 
I’m not sure I get the Hyman stuff re: Cowan. Hyman at Cowan’s age was not a great college player, at all. He wasn’t even really any better than Knies. We could dig em up again but Cowan’s OHL production is more like Kadri’s.
 
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