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MLB Draft Chatter 2016

That shouldn't be the spirit of the rule.

I only traded for him under the assumption that he'd obviously (in my mind anyways) be on the DL all year.
 
braby21 said:
Not trying to be a dick, just pointing out facts. It sucks, but it's reality.
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But this isn't reality. It's fantasy and we can correct it.

We aren't allowed to pick up players who aren't signed to MLB contracts either... does that mean I can't own Holland at all then? Should I have to drop him? Cause "oh well, tough break."
 
Habspatrol said:
But this isn't reality. It's fantasy and we can correct it.

We aren't allowed to pick up players who aren't signed to MLB contracts either... does that mean I can't own Holland at all then? Should I have to drop him? Cause "oh well, tough break."
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In Fantasy and Reality he doesn't have a MLB contract so isn't eligible for the DL. I'm trying to figure out why a FA "deserves" to be on the DL. Can I just pick up random unsigned injured players and stick them on my DL? He's on your bench or you can drop him.
 
Holland's similar to guys in the past who were a "waste" of a bench spot, like Radulov or Kovalchuk. That's the cost of owning them.

The Green Hornet said:
in the hockey league it makes more sense as teams are intentionally not putting players on the IR due to the salary cap. its not really a problem in baseball. spring training is really the only time its a big issue where teams delay on putting player on the DL.
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Personally, I prefer to stick to the MLB DL as well. It makes the most sense. Howevah - one issue that is hella-annoying in baseball is that teams often don't bother putting guys on the DL in September once they are allowed to exceed the 25-man roster. Which is why I'd be willing to consider looking at a change in the rule.
 
axlsalinger said:
Holland's similar to guys in the past who were a "waste" of a bench spot, like Radulov or Kovalchuk. That's the cost of owning them.



Personally, I prefer to stick to the MLB DL as well. It makes the most sense. Howevah - one issue that is hella-annoying in baseball is that teams often don't bother putting guys on the DL in September once they are allowed to exceed the 25-man roster. Which is why I'd be willing to consider looking at a change in the rule.
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I think we'd be better off just sticking with what we're doing. We've managed around it for 3 years already and we have 6 reserve spots as well.
 
axlsalinger said:
Holland's similar to guys in the past who were a "waste" of a bench spot, like Radulov or Kovalchuk. That's the cost of owning them.
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I don't think they're similar at all. Those guys left the NHL to play elsewhere. We don't even know if they'll ever return.

Holland is an elite closer who is out for the year and his contract happened to be up so the team didn't re-sign him. He didn't leave baseball, he's the same as any of these other guys who get TJ surgery except his contract status.

Whatever though... it's not something that I even considered. I traded for him without even considering the fact that he wouldn't be eligible for our DL. I'll deal with it.
 
Habspatrol said:
What? We either make exceptions or we don't.
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Holland would be giving YOU a specific exception for no good reason other than you acquired an injured player and think you deserve some kind of special treatment. Axl's suggestion would be for the entire league. As much as I think it would be beneficial to allow red flagged guys to be IR'd, I think we should just leave things as is. GH remarked that baseball doesn't have a cap, so teams usually DL players immediately anyways.
 
Deckie007 said:
Holland would be giving YOU a specific exception for no good reason other than you acquired an injured player and think you deserve some kind of special treatment. Axl's suggestion would be for the entire league.
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No... it would have allowed anyone in the similar situation to be able to DL players... not just me.

As much as I think it would be beneficial to allow red flagged guys to be IR'd, I think we should just leave things as is. GH remarked that baseball doesn't have a cap, so teams usually DL players immediately anyways.
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They may not have a cap, but there must be some strategy in play when they don't DL players right away. I'm assuming it's to due with roster size restrictions.
 
Habspatrol said:
No... it would have allowed anyone in the similar situation to be able to DL players... not just me.
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A valuable FA out for the year? That's really specific. This might not come up again for years. I can't think of another FA that was unable to play the whole year and didn't get a contract.

They may not have a cap, but there must be some strategy in play when they don't DL players right away. I'm assuming it's to due with roster size restrictions.
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Sometimes, they are waiting to see if a player can be back within a few days. In September the rosters expand so the replacement is probably on the team anyway so little reason to DL.
 
Deckie007 said:
A valuable FA out for the year? That's really specific. This might not come up again for years. I can't think of another FA that was unable to play the whole year and didn't get a contract.
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Still something that can happen. It doesn't have to be someone that valuable. I just didn't expect it at all. It made sense to me that a guy who was unable to play for the year would be eligible for the DL. His contract status never really entered my mind... as it really doesn't in any of these leagues other than the Cap league.

Like I said, I'll deal with it.
 
Habspatrol said:
Still something that can happen. It doesn't have to be someone that valuable. I just didn't expect it at all. It made sense to me that a guy who was unable to play for the year would be eligible for the DL. His contract status never really entered my mind... as it really doesn't in any of these leagues other than the Cap league.

Like I said, I'll deal with it.
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Alright. Well I'll stop poking the bear then. I wouldn't expect an exemption in any other league either. If say Steven Stamkos broke every bone in his body and didn't receive a contract this summer (unlikely), his owner wouldn't get an exemption either and nor should he.
 
Deckie007 said:
Alright. Well I'll stop poking the bear then. I wouldn't expect an exemption in any other league either. If say Steven Stamkos broke every bone in his body and didn't receive a contract this summer (unlikely), his owner wouldn't get an exemption either and nor should he.
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I can honestly say that if Stamkos or any other player were to miss the year due to injury I would say lets put him on the IR regardless of him being on the real life IR or not. Whether it was because he had no contract or if it was for cap reasons.

It appears as if it's only me who feels this way... so be it.
 
Habspatrol said:
I can honestly say that if Stamkos or any other player were to miss the year due to injury I would say lets put him on the IR regardless of him being on the real life IR or not. Whether it was because he had no contract or if it was for cap reasons.

It appears as if it's only me who feels this way... so be it.
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I'm really kinda torn on the holland subject. I would be ok with him going on IR only when season started as it seems waiver wire will open up before some of the other teams (fantasy) get to use their IR spot and have to use up a bench spot while other teams get to pick through the wire
 
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