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Karygiannis I think too.

Linda Jeffrey lost to Patrick Brown in Brampton though.

Jimmy K was barely a Liberal.

But yeah, not surprising that after losing big, a ton of Libs turned back municipal. McGarry was elected mayor in Cambridge too as another name. According to this, 6 just recently turfed Libs won seats: https://tvo.org/article/current-aff...ral-mpps-found-new-life-in-municipal-politics

Of course, that's not counting people like Watson who left the provincial scene years ago and is on his second turn as mayor. Or the people like Carroll who quit municipal to run provincial, lost, and returned to her old seat.
 
Karygiannis I think too.

Linda Jeffrey lost to Patrick Brown in Brampton though.

Brown getting elected is not a bad thing for the Liberals. Ford hates him. And Ford's likely unwillingness to work with Brown will likely hurt the PC's members from Brampton.

The Liberals should be targeting Brampton as seats to reclaim next election.

Ford just cancelled college/university expansions that were scheduled for Brampton. That makes the newly elected PC MPPs there look irrelevant.

Also, Libs now should be targeting Sault Ste Marie as a seat to reclaim. The PC's are ****ing with union pensions in that city. NEVER do that.
 
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Brown getting elected is not a bad thing for the Liberals. Ford hates him. And Ford's likely unwillingness to work with Brown will likely hurt the PC's members from Brampton.

The Liberals should be targeting Brampton as seats to reclaim next election.

Ford just cancelled college/university expansions that were scheduled for Brampton. That makes the newly elected PC MPPs there look irrelevant.

Also, Libs now should be targeting Sault Ste Marie as a seat to reclaim. The PC's are ****ing with union pensions in that city. NEVER do that.
Hopefully Trudeau sweeps Quebec, holds his own in Ontario and sweeps the Atlantic provinces, making it a very quick election call.

I'm not voting for him, but I do hope he wins a second term.
 
I can't get too excited about the political persuasion of municipal politicians. Unfortunately of the few people who bother to vote many just pick a name they recognize. In Ottawa of the dozen or so names on the ballot for mayor, two maybe three would be recognizable to more than their own families.
 
LOL.

I actually had to check if this was real after I first saw it, and sadly it is:


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Maybe he's working towards his election slogan:

CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS! IT'S WHAT PLANTS CRAVE!!
 
Hopefully Trudeau sweeps Quebec, holds his own in Ontario and sweeps the Atlantic provinces, making it a very quick election call.

I'm not voting for him, but I do hope he wins a second term.

My post was talking about the next provincial election. The Ontario Liberals need to be targeting the areas that they historically do well in, esp. now the Ford is starting to made bad choices politically (example: Brampton and SSM).
 
LOL.

I actually had to check if this was real after I first saw it, and sadly it is:


yu4zvPT.jpg




Maybe he's working towards his election slogan:

CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS! IT'S WHAT PLANTS CRAVE!!

the ultimate green initiative - FEED THE PLANTS!


#darkagesincoming
 
My post was talking about the next provincial election. The Ontario Liberals need to be targeting the areas that they historically do well in, esp. now the Ford is starting to made bad choices politically (example: Brampton and SSM).

Provincially?

Oh boy, no. The taste of the provincial liberals will take more than one term of Ford to wash out. Maybe they get official party status once again, but I don't see them being relevant for quite some time.
 
Provincially?

Oh boy, no. The taste of the provincial liberals will take more than one term of Ford to wash out. Maybe they get official party status once again, but I don't see them being relevant for quite some time.

Did you read my original post re: Sault Ste Marie and Brampton? Or do you just blindly reply with off topic randomness?
 
Did you read my original post re: Sault Ste Marie and Brampton? Or do you just blindly reply with off topic randomness?

Sure, the liberals should target these areas. As should the NDP. To what end, I'm not sure. They aren't winning the next provincial election, IMHO.
 
LOL.

I actually had to check if this was real after I first saw it, and sadly it is:


yu4zvPT.jpg




Maybe he's working towards his election slogan:

CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS! IT'S WHAT PLANTS CRAVE!!

jeez he is deliberately targeting the dumdums
 
Next weeks anti liberal Facebook meme

CO2 is good for plants. Carbon tax is a sham. Share if you agree
 
Sure, the liberals should target these areas. As should the NDP. To what end, I'm not sure. They aren't winning the next provincial election, IMHO.

It's 4 years away. A ton can happen in that time. 99% of what happens right now will be forgotten by then.
 
Provincially?

Oh boy, no. The taste of the provincial liberals will take more than one term of Ford to wash out. Maybe they get official party status once again, but I don't see them being relevant for quite some time.

people said that federally in 2011, we were now a two party state, hard right and hard left, in 2015 Liberals won again
 
It's 4 years away. A ton can happen in that time. 99% of what happens right now will be forgotten by then.

The Ontario Liberal's will target specific areas for the next election. That's a no-brainer that they will do this. The have tons of history in the two areas I mentioned and Ford has already messed things up there locally. In politics movements start a lot earlier than most realize.

Somehow this turned into about them winning the whole ****ing thing.
 
I really don't think it's going to take long for the Ontario Liberals to turn around their fortunes in Ontario. Especially if they do a hard reset and go into the next election lead by fresh faces who aren't tainted with the stink of Kathleen Wynne or Dalton McGuinty, and even moreso if the NDP roll into yet another election with the uninspiring Andrea Horwath as the face of their party.

After all, this past election was kind of the perfect storm for the NDP to regain power. The PC leader dropped out in disgrace shortly before the election, was replaced with the most polarizing and unlikeable leader possible, and then they ran with pretty much no official platform. And then the Liberals were at the lowest ebb of their popularity in my lifetime.

Yet all the NDP could muster was about half as many seats as the PC's, and 33% of the vote.
 
The Liberals are back in second place according to some polls. Many former Ontario Liberals just got elected in the municipal elections (as we talked about above).

I can see them having 30-40 seats after the next election.
 
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The Liberals are back in second place according to some polls. Many former Ontario Liberals just got elected in the municipal elections (as we talked about above).

I can see them having 30-40 seats after the next election.

Want to bet on that
 
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