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what propaganda has been fallen for? be specific if you're gonna make those claims.

also, you mischaracterize opposing views in pretty much every post you make on this topic, so I cannot tell if you're arguing in bad faith, trolling, or just dumb (I don't think it is this last one though).
Pretty sure he is Wayne Gretzky
 
Counterpoint: the tariffs we impose on US products hurt our economy as well, and hasten the damage that Trump’s trade war is doing.

Serious question....which and why?

Taking US booze off of the shelf doesn't hurt our economy. Shit, I don't even think it will lead to higher prices for consumers, the world is awash in booze companies. We're just shifting trade flows.


That's the list of item categories impacted by the Canadian counter tariffs. It's all raw products we produce here (that the US has tariffed going the other way) or finished product that the American industry isn't important to us. For example, there's a 25% tariff on American wrist watches. I'm a watch nerd and have been for over a decade now....is there an American watch brand worth owning? A few micro brands maybe, but meh.

I've kind of nibbled around this issue in a handful of posts over the last week but the composition of the economies is so different it's crazy. We're their cheapest supply for the vast majority of what they buy from us. Put a 25% tariff on Western Canadian Select and when you factor in transportation and what American refineries are set up to finish, WCS is still cheaper than bringing in Brent or Opec Basket so all the Americans have done in the end is put a 25% tax on themselves for buying our shit. There is no alternative to Canadian potash for them, you could double the fucking price of Potash and we're still the only supplier.

On the American end of things, everything they sell us has a competing product in price and quality from a nation not trying to annex us.

They're bigger than us, they can make this hurt if they're willing to be stupid enough but the composition of the economies and what they do for each other are massively assymmetric.
 
Serious question....which and why?

Taking US booze off of the shelf doesn't hurt our economy. Shit, I don't even think it will lead to higher prices for consumers, the world is awash in booze companies. We're just shifting trade flows.


That's the list of item categories impacted by the Canadian counter tariffs. It's all raw products we produce here (that the US has tariffed going the other way) or finished product that the American industry isn't important to us. For example, there's a 25% tariff on American wrist watches. I'm a watch nerd and have been for over a decade now....is there an American watch brand worth owning? A few micro brands maybe, but meh.

I've kind of nibbled around this issue in a handful of posts over the last week but the composition of the economies is so different it's crazy. We're their cheapest supply for the vast majority of what they buy from us. Put a 25% tariff on Western Canadian Select and when you factor in transportation and what American refineries are set up to finish, WCS is still cheaper than bringing in Brent or Opec Basket so all the Americans have done in the end is put a 25% tax on themselves for buying our shit. There is no alternative to Canadian potash for them, you could double the fucking price of Potash and we're still the only supplier.

On the American end of things, everything they sell us has a competing product in price and quality from a nation not trying to annex us.

They're bigger than us, they can make this hurt if they're willing to be stupid enough but the composition of the economies and what they do for each other are massively assymmetric.
Taxes on plastics and aluminums are gonna hurt bad. A lot of raw materials can shift around but we’ll eat the added transport cost.
 
If we strip out energy, the US doesn’t have a trade defecit with us. Not sure why that isn’t reported by the media in every trade story
What does Donald mean by trade deficit?

We buy more US stuff than they buy Canadian?
 
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