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It’s based on “vibes” and “memes”, which call upon our gut sense and emotion centres. Sometimes they try to dress it up as analytical or “common sense”, the former based on disinformation and the latter just being plainly stupid. You punctured that rather easily.

We are in the Age of Imbeciles. And it can grab anyone, no matter how smart or hard working.
algos are basically rage farms I guess so it does make sense on one level
 
That’s the scary part. She is generally smart, very good at her job, and I can’t recall ever noticing any sign that she’s Maple MAGA or even a Poilievre supporter.

She is a bit older though, and all the generations older than ours seem to have especially poor “bullshit detectors” for online misinformation.
yah same with my buddy. smart guy, a bit older. he's also from rural Alberta, so that is probably a factor (and I think he is the "liberal" in his family...)

and I cannot be certain, but pretty sure what socials he is on have polluted his brain with made up crap (as much of the anti-woke stuff seems to end up being...)
 
yah same with my buddy. smart guy, a bit older. he's also from rural Alberta, so that is probably a factor (and I think he is the "liberal" in his family...)

and I cannot be certain, but pretty sure what socials he is on have polluted his brain with made up crap (as much of the anti-woke stuff seems to end up being...)


Yep. Have noticed the same thing with my dad.

Luckily so far, he’s been immune to any of the pro-Trump stuff or nutty Qanon-style conspiracy stuff.

But the anti-woke and trans scaremongering has definitely struck a chord with him, unfortunately. And he’s huge Poilievre fan and convinced that Carney is a frothing-at-the-mouth radical environmentalist.

He’s one of the smartest people I know too, so it’s concerning how effective that shit’s been on him.
 
Yep. Have noticed the same thing with my dad.

Luckily so far, he’s been immune to any of the pro-Trump stuff or nutty Qanon-style conspiracy stuff.

But the anti-woke and trans scaremongering has definitely struck a chord with him, unfortunately. And he’s huge Poilievre fan and convinced that Carney is a frothing-at-the-mouth radical environmentalist.

He’s one of the smartest people I know too, so it’s concerning how effective that shit’s been on him.
this mostly sums up my dad too, minus the radical environmentalist part.

then again, my dad has been voting (mostly) conservative for years (decades?), and shares a lot of habsy's 'libertarian' leanings
 
Contrast between intelligence and lack of it so damned stark. . .

Carney says he asked Trump in White House meeting to stop calling Canada 51st state​

"The president has made known his wish about that issue for some time. I’ve been careful always to distinguish between wish and reality,” Carney told reporters.

 

View: https://x.com/TheFP/status/1920208494545772589

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What is unfolding in Canada is not a grassroots, spontaneous expression of solidarity for Palestinians, although the press covers it that way.

This is an orchestrated effort to normalize antisemitic incitement under the guise of political activism. The days of exclusionary signs at golf clubs have been replaced by open calls for jihad and terrorist cosplay—all animated by an obsession with intimidating Jews, including in their own neighborhoods.

Pogroms rarely begin with organized massacres; typically, they start with tolerated incitement, with mobs unpunished, and with authorities hesitant to act decisively for fear of political blowback.

And that is perhaps the most alarming thing of all happening right now in Canada.

On more than one occasion, protesters clad in keffiyehs, inciting violence, intimidating Jews and non-Jews alike, and calling for the erasure of Israel have been met with equivocation."
 
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If only Israel would throw Bibi and his henchmen in prison. Then all this other shit could be dealt with.

But it's very hard to be on Israel's side while he's still in charge. It's a lot like the US. I'm not anti-American, but as long as they keep electing people like Trump my belief is that they deserve whatever happens. Israel is the same. You want me to care about this explosion of anti-Israel rhetoric? Stop electing fascists.
 
If only Israel would throw Bibi and his henchmen in prison. Then all this other shit could be dealt with.

But it's very hard to be on Israel's side while he's still in charge. It's a lot like the US. I'm not anti-American, but as long as they keep electing people like Trump my belief is that they deserve whatever happens. Israel is the same. You want me to care about this explosion of anti-Israel rhetoric? Stop electing fascists.
your antisemitism is showing, and it's despicable.
 
your antisemitism is showing, and it's despicable.
And there you go again. Being critical of the Israeli government is not "anti-Semitism". People use that shit all the time to shut down debate and excuse what the government of Israel does. It's not gonna work. Unless or until Israel wakes the fuck up and stops electing fascists, they can eat a bag of uncircumcised dicks. In order to claim the moral high ground one must be better than one's opponent. Right now, when it comes to Israel vs Gaza, I've got no rooting interest because both sides are run by objectively awful people and they both do objectively awful things. It's Leafs-Bruins for me. I want them both to lose.

If and when Israel gets their shit together and puts Bibi in prison, then I'll go back to rooting for them. But right now they're in the penalty box, right next to the US.

I'm very simple to please. If you want my support, stop being goddamned fascists because I have zero tolerance for them, whether they are Israeli, American, or Canadian.
 
this is the Canadian politics thread. the article I posted had nothing to do with Israel. it had to do with antisemitism in Canada.

your response to antisemitism in Canada is to... blame Israel. this is textbook antisemitism.

Israeli policies should have no bearing on how Canadian Jews are treated, in Canada, for simply being Jewish. suggesting otherwise is incredibly antisemitic.
 
this is the Canadian politics thread. the article I posted had nothing to do with Israel. it had to do with antisemitism in Canada.

your response to antisemitism in Canada is to... blame Israel. this is textbook antisemitism.

Israeli policies should have no bearing on how Canadian Jews are treated, in Canada, for simply being Jewish. suggesting otherwise is incredibly antisemitic.
I agree that no one, especially in this country, should be subjected to hatred or oppression just for being Jewish, Muslim, trans, or anything else (although hating on fascists is, of course, entirely justified and should be encouraged)

My only concern is that what is being characterized as "anti-Semitism" is actual anti-Semitism and not merely expressing negative opinions about Israel's role in Gaza. And I find that all too often the politicians who lick Israel's taint because they're simping for campaign contributions will decry any criticism of Israel as "anti-Semitism" in order to remain in their donors' good graces.

But yes, obviously, we can't tolerate desecration of synagogues or Jewish cemeteries nor harassment of Jewish Canadians simply for existing. But we have laws for all of this already. They simply need to be applied with more vigor and some heads need to get cracked. Back in March when I was in Montreal on a hockey weekend I came upon a spontaneous pro-Palestinian rally right on Ste. Catherine Street and most of the people taking part looked like their only reason for being there was that they preferred shish-taouk for lunch instead of smoked meat (which is crazy, by the way) It just seems that since the war in Gaza ramped up, marching for Palestinians has become the flavor of the month. These are not serious people for the most part.

Just crack a few heads and the casuals will disappear. Toss the hardcores in a jail cell for a weekend and tell them that their misdemeanor mischief charge can easily be upgraded to a felony hate crime if they want to fuck around and find out.
 



Says quite a fucking lot that she’s fine attacking national unity at a time when we’re under outside attack, and all for her own selfish ends.

Both so she can head off another Provincial party taking off and outflanking her on the right, and so that she can distract from the various corruption scandals she’s at the center of.

Probably helps that, in her heart of hearts, she would really much rather be Republican Governor Danielle Smith of the US state of Alberta instead of Premier Smith of the Canadian province of Alberta.
 
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