No Excuses No Limits! The mother fucking goddamn season thread

[zeke]

If you are not in LTIR it the cap is calculated on a daily basis. So if you have $1 million in deadline space then you only have to fit the players remaining salary, not their entire cap hit for the year. Thats why $1 mill can buy a $4 million player or whatever. Also if you move players up and down then you are saving cap space (e.g. if a player making $800k is on the roster for 20 days out of the season, they count those 20 days worth of salary, not $800k each time they are up).

If you are in LTIR you have to fit their entire cap hit at all times.

can you give me an example of a team that this was actually true for (i.e. where they were allowed to carry a roster that was over the cap, without using ltir / retention?)

 

[zeke]

Isn't it rantanen or marner moving forward?

 

[leafman101]

can you give me an example of a team that this was actually true for (i.e. where they were allowed to carry a roster that was over the cap, without using ltir / retention?)

What Tampa did is a good example. They are at $91 mill in cap hits now, but with no one on LTIR and $800k in cap space.

 

[zeke]

What Tampa did is a good example. They are at $91 mill in cap hits now, but with no one on LTIR and $800k in cap space.

so they didn't get retention on that last trade?

 

[Artnes]

View: https://x.com/nylanderthews/status/1897726232864641486?t=KYlAzGFmMEacJaDd9lVE7g&s=19

 

[leafman101]

The got double retention on Gourde I think, but they took the whole Bjorkstrand hit. They added almost $6 mill in cap hits, but only had to fit in 25% of that (days-ish left in season).

 

[zeke]

The got double retention on Gourde I think, but they took the whole Bjorkstrand hit. They added almost $6 mill in cap hits, but only had to fit in 25% of that (days-ish left in season).

so it actually does work then.

so having Hak and reaves and dewar on the payroll all year goes from stupid all the way to unbelievably incompetent.

 

[Pwner]

so it actually does work then.

so having Hak and reaves and dewar on the payroll all year goes from stupid all the way to unbelievably incompetent.

Isn't Dewar actually useful and kinda young?

 

[leafman101]

Isn't Dewar actually useful and kinda young?

He's kinda young.

 

[MindzEye]

i hate that i'm linking to fucking Pagnotta but the idea intrigued me.


View: https://x.com/budsallday34/status/1897682944933650475



for the record, Knies for Rantanen both this year and for future years at their next probable caphits is a no-brainer yes imo.

Yep. If Knies next deal is in the 7's, and Rantanen's is in the 12's you kind of have to do it.

 

[MindzEye]

Isn't it rantanen or marner moving forward?

Just have to find a cheaper centre than the 11 million dollar amulet and we can make it work.

 

[zeke]

Isn't Dewar actually useful and kinda young?

yes. but not worth wasting millions of dollars in trade deadline capspace to sit in the press box all year.

 

[leafman101]

Is Cowan still playing center this year or did that end?

 

[zeke]

Just have to find a cheaper centre than the 11 million dollar amulet and we can make it work.

Mitch looks like a C to me.

 

[leafman101]

If you sign Rantanen and Marner for 8 x $13 then this team is $2.4 mill under the cap:

Rantanen-Matthews-Marner
Robertson-Domi-Willy
McMann-Minten-Cowan
Grebenkin-Kampf-Krok

McCabe-Tanev
Rielly-Myers
Benoit-Timmins

Stolarz
Woll

And of course you could move Kampf, Krok, and Domi, add two minimum 4th liners and clear up another $6 mill to sign a second line center. So they could keep JT/Schenn/Nelson.

 

[trujaysfan]

Just have to find a cheaper centre than the 11 million dollar amulet and we can make it work.

If him and marner sign identical 12.5M x8 deals I can get the roster to need a 2C, 3RW and D partner for rielly with 6.7MM in cap space.

Maybe JT takes 5MM and we wait to upgrade those spots until the deadline.

 

[zeke]

heck sign them to $14m each doesn't really matter.

put Mitch at C.

if we need to squeeze out some money you move out the likes of Domi/kampf/krok/benoit.

 

[leafman101]

View: https://x.com/stefen_rosner/status/1897719117391495364

 

[MyNameIsJonas]

I mean, whatever Islanders

 

[Artnes]

Maple Leafs Insider Lays Out Potential Trade Package for Hurricanes' Mikko Rantanen

The Toronto Maple Leafs have been linked to Mikko Rantanen for some time after it was reported that the Carolina Hurricanes would be looking to deal the Finnish superstar.

thehockeynews.com

"Given what Carolina traded to land Rantanen, my belief is they’d be looking to trying and recoup nearly what they lost." "Could be 2 of their top prospects. Maybe a first instead of one of those and possibly a roster player like [Nick] Robertson."

If that's the cost then you make that trade yesterday