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OT: American Politics

WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
There are lots of Palestinians and Lebanese people in Montreal so I'm not the least bit surprised to see an encampment at McGill. But UBC is known colloquially as the University of a Billion Chinese and most donair shops in Vancouver are owned and staffed by East Indians or Filipinos, not anyone from the Middle East. They're just doing it to be trendy, as usual for Van City. Pro Palestinian protesting is a fad like avacado toast to these privileged wastrels.
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well this is a new take.

I do agree though that outside forces are at least partially (and perhaps fully) responsible for this recent encampment fad.
 
Wayward DP said:
well this is a new take.

I do agree though that outside forces are at least partially (and perhaps fully) responsible for this recent encampment fad.
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Look, does anyone really think that the anti-war protests during Vietnam was about taking a principled stand against the war? These are boomers we're talking about and as they have aged they have revealed themselves to be as petty, venal and self-absorbed like no generation before or since. In retrospect, the entire anti-war movement of the late 60's can be distilled down to just a few things:

1. First and foremost in the mind of every college boy of military age was to avoid being drafted. They weren't so much "anti war" as they were "anti me going to war", and as the studies have shown, that war was fought mostly by poor whites and visible minorities. The well to do kept their lily white asses well clear of the Nam, either through deferments, like Cadet Bone Spurs, or in the National Guard like Dubya, where the saying was "If you have the dough, you don't have to go." The Guard was a repository for the sons of the rich and well-connected.

2. Anti-war protests were where the weed and the chicks were. Again, these are college kids. They wanted in on all that free love and dope.

Once the US ended the draft (announced in 71 and ended by late 72) the campus protest movement pretty much ended. It was no longer cool to protest everything nor was it a fast track to easy sex. And since the draft was gone there was no worry about being sent to die in a rice paddy halfway across the globe. So college kids took a bath, shaved off the beards and found the next fad to follow that would get them laid.

Most of these Gen Z idiots don't even know why they're protesting or what the schools they are protesting against are even doing with regard to Israel and Gaza, if indeed there is anything to know. It's just the latest campus fad, like flagpole sitting was a century ago. And as soon as it goes out of fashion, only the hardcores will still be there and there won't be enough of them to disrupt anything. It will die off for the same reason any campus fad dies off: lack of interest. Thanks to social media, Gen Z has the attention span of a goldfish. They can't stay focused on this issue indefinitely. They will get bored, something else will happen that diverts their attention, and that will be that. Because at the end of the day, 99% of these college kids have no skin in the game. They are not really invested in the cause. Soon enough they will find another cause that's more hip or sexy. Another cause in which they have no vested interest, except that it's the new trendy place to see and be seen.

The best thing all these schools could do is ignore the encampments. All you need to do is make it inconvenient for them to recharge their phones and they'll all go home.
 
Wayward DP said:
I guess the saving grace so far is that these Ivy leaguers are kinda pussies when it comes to actual violence? we'll see how much longer that lasts...

here's an example of a masked mob of people physically attempting to remove Jewish students from campus.


View: https://twitter.com/ShelleyGldschmt/status/1785197531993198870
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Could they not have found an even more stereotypical 98lb weakling in glasses to man the defense of the Hall? He looks like a flashback in a Woody Allen film where young Woody gets beaten up by bigger kids.

I would like to ask the people storming the building why they feel it necessary to cover their faces if they're the "good guys".
 
zeke said:

View: https://x.com/ernietedeschi/status/1785313369806823604
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They don't even have the generations categorized properly. The Silent Generation was born between 1928 and 1946. They are the generation in between the so-called "Greatest" and the Boomers. Why the hell any such chart would bother listing the generation born between 1901 and 1927 is beyond me since almost all of them are already dead and gone.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
In Vancouver? Sure, I have no doubt. Again, trendy.
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I guess the downtown protestors were months ahead of the campus trend?

Anyway, UBC campus has thousands of residences on it. It’s basically its own city. And exams are over, many of the students have gone home. I agree that this is not some grassroots student movement。
 
manny said:
I guess the downtown protestors were months ahead of the campus trend?

Anyway, UBC campus has thousands of residences on it. It’s basically its own city. And exams are over, many of the students have gone home. I agree that this is not some grassroots student movement。
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The downtown protests aren't UBC, they're just random Lower Mainland amateur protestors. They show up for all the mass gatherings. 4-20, the once every 20 years "We lost the Stanley Cup Final" riot, crunchy granola anti-vaxxers, whatever.
 
MindzEye said:
I definitely expect violence. The main difference this time though is who has his hands on the wheel of the response to it all.
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As well, tougher for an already 77 year old to be offering pardons to those "protestors" in 2028 if he loses the election. Consuming vast amount of high cholestoral foods /Baconators + being vastly overweight isn't a good combination for someone north of 80.
 
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