a thrashing like that would have always had some impact, but i think in this case it's had a bigger impact because this was the first time many people had seen Kamala in the ring having to throw down against a big alpha man and it really put to be a bunch of subconscious doubts.
I don't think all of these averages have all of today's polls factored in yet but some of them do.
but the debate bounce is real. Even Nate's numbers have started to move back towards the pack.
RCP is still fighting their fight tho - especially in all-important PA where they're the only ones that have managed to calculate a number in Trump's favor. They know how important that state is.