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OT: American Politics

This really was another fantastic con job by TrumpCo

"We're going to fix everything being too expensive, and all of those job are coming to America" turned into "yeah bro, the grocery prices aren't coming down and you're too dumb to do the jobs" in a fucking hurry....it's still 2024 ffs.
 
Those tech jobs number in what… the 10s of thousands? Maybe? The magnitude, location and education requirements of those openings were never going to resolve anything for the huge majority of aggrieved Trumpanzees. It’s totally beyond their reach to begin with.
 
lecoqsportif said:
Those tech jobs number in what… the 10s of thousands? Maybe? The magnitude, location and education requirements of those openings were never going to resolve anything for the huge majority of aggrieved Trumpanzees. It’s totally beyond their reach to begin with.
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It's a worldview thing though. You can't pitch an America first worldview to people and then tell them that high paying tech jobs are beyond the capacity of American workers to fill, so we need people you don't like from places you look down upon to come in and do it instead...while making way more money than you make at your job to do it.

Especially when it's the Dork Maga oligarchs who benefit from the arrangement.
 
MindzEye said:
It's a worldview thing though. You can't pitch an America first worldview to people and then tell them that high paying tech jobs are beyond the capacity of American workers to fill, so we need people you don't like from places you look down upon to come in and do it instead...while making way more money than you make at your job to do it.

Especially when it's the Dork Maga oligarchs who benefit from the arrangement.
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Sure. But… now what?

Perhaps there’s cause to look into why qualified domestic kids aren’t getting tech jobs - I have no idea. But they aren’t really Trumpanzees either. The core Trumpanzee base would still be holding a bag of shit if those tech jobs went to ‘Murican kids. The labour market is highly stratified, and there ain’t no way those old low/semi skilled jobs are coming back. There’s no real connection between the two in that worldview and changing HB1 won’t change a damn thing.
 
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lecoqsportif said:
Sure. But… now what?

Perhaps there’s cause to look into why qualified domestic kids aren’t getting tech jobs - I have no idea. But they aren’t really Trumpanzees either. The core Trumpanzee base would still be holding a bag of shit if those tech jobs went to ‘Murican kids. The labour market is highly stratified, and there ain’t no way those old low/semi skilled jobs are coming back. There’s no real connection between the two in that worldview and changing HB1 won’t change a damn thing.
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yeah but in this case it seems they've been using these H1Bs for entry-level coding type positions. because they can pay them much less and demand they work much more, and the employees can't quit unless they finally obtain a different visa a decade+ later.

this actually seems to be what elon did when he took over twitter - fired all the american citizens, and kept the H1B visa types who were cheaper and had no negotiating leverage. #efficiency
 
lecoqsportif said:
Sure. But… now what?
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lecoqsportif said:
Perhaps there’s cause to look into why qualified domestic kids aren’t getting tech jobs - I have no idea.
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A few tech companies have already lost lawsuits on this....because the answer is the same answer to a lot of problems: Corporate motherfucking greed. Tech workers on visas will accept shit wages, will work 80 hr work weeks, and won't talk back. Perfect for the Musk's of the world, that's why they're preferred. The Magaverse is right to be angry about this.

lecoqsportif said:
The core Trumpanzee base would still be holding a bag of shit if those tech jobs went to ‘Murican kids. The labour market is highly stratified, and there ain’t no way those old low/semi skilled jobs are coming back.
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Different problem for a different day. Their views are starting to crystalize a bit more consistently around items like this. It might actually be nationalism/nativism as the motivating force with racism as a side effect rather than the opposite, which I think has been pretty widely presumed.
 
zeke said:
another couple adjacent points

a. goddamn twitter "spaces" are useless
b. how the fuck do those people not realize that is Elon Musk's voice?
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What a coincidence that this Dittman dude is also a Saffer?

And even more of a coincidence that he sounds…exactly like Elon.

Wonder how many folks have actually heard him speak before…
 
zeke said:
yeah but in this case it seems they've been using these H1Bs for entry-level coding type positions. because they can pay them much less and demand they work much more, and the employees can't quit unless they finally obtain a different visa a decade+ later.

this actually seems to be what elon did when he took over twitter - fired all the american citizens, and kept the H1B visa types who were cheaper and had no negotiating leverage. #efficiency
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Yup purely exploitative, like much they do
 
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