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OT: American Politics

Wayward DP said:
it's like Pelosi said - both choices are shitty. but if the Dems allow cloture, they are complicit in what happens next.

and, sadly, it seems like some folks need shit to get real ugly to start opposing.
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Schumer can say whatever he wants. Him voting not to shut down is not about the American people, it's about one American person called Chuck Schumer and it's about him not losing his status.

The reality is simple: everything needs to burn. Americans can not allow their country to slip quietly and seamlessly into fascism. They need to fight and they need to burn things.

Schumer is doing a Neville Chamberlain and he's going to wind up in the same place.

As Churchill said in 1938,

"You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war."
 
Tryamw said:
I mostly Agree but shutting down the government isn't necessarily the right play. But the media is 10000% going to says Dems did this. Also this F's DC itself. This isn't a CR. But once more you see how the media covers it. they buy the Rep point of view uncontested.

There is no real good move for the Dems since they were able to heard the freedumb caucus.. The USA is hurt either way.. and even the few that vote for cloture I'm hoping will vote against the bill but there will be one or 2. The problem with negotiating to free the hostage is if the side holding the hostage by just wasting time. and the Reps 100% do. Note Schumer's Talking to the press is spineless. The next CR will include provisions that the Democrats must eat #$@# on live TV and the Republicans will know they'll acquiesce :(
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The democrats have two options. Either don't take part in Donald Trump's overreach, or give it tacit approval and bake it into legislation. For me, the answer as to which one is the right move is clear. Don't obey in advance, make him forcefully take every inch. As for what the media says, a huge mental hurdle the Democrats need to get over is this idea that the media will eventually come to their senses and start calling unbiased balls and strikes. It's not going to happen, the media is functioning exactly as entrenched power wants it to function right now, as a tool to normalize the obviously radical. Democrats need to adopt the attitude and verbiabe towards the media that the Republicans have utilized for a decade now. Fake news, radical conservative controlled media, corporately controlled media, etc. Accuse them of normalizing the destruction of the Republic when that's what they're doing, call them out at every turn. Treating the media as if they're not complicit in this normalizes the media, who are then using that position to normalize more and more radical shit. The legacy media has been captured by the other side, admit it and start treating it like what it is.
 
I'll conceed that this one feels different even many federal workers want a shutdown and to tell Trump and DOGE to pound sand. Also Trump liking the cave made me feel it was wrong
 

More than 50 universities face federal investigations as part of Trump's anti-DEI campaign​

More than 50 universities face federal investigations as part of Trump's anti-DEI campaign

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Just in time to step down. . . (Joe should have canned his ass.)

Postal Service signs cost-cutting deal with DOGE​

He said it was important to provide enough notice and time for the Postal Service to bring in a new postmaster general who can carry on the cost-cutting and efficiency work he began

Postal Service signs cost-cutting deal with DOGE

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