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OT: American Politics

Hoss said:
I think I've told you all that I've been taken into secondary the last two times I went to the US...once with extended family going on a Disney cruise to Alaska and the other time when going to new York with wife and sister in law.

I'm scheduled to go to New York for April long weekend with my family and sister in law and I know it's gonna happen again.

My name is most likely similar to some drug person from Mexico.
They've asked me to speak Spanish and when they asked about where my parents were from....the agent tells me I hesitated.

My wife is thinking it won't happen....but I am prepared to be sent back.

I'm also doing Roatan in July and the only way to get there is with a stop in Houston 😳. 50 min lay over.
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Don’t do it. Don’t go.

Just not worth the risk.
 
MindzEye said:
A lot of Americans didn't like being forced to keep their mouths shut about which groups of people they disliked and thought the problem with society was that they could be judged for being outwardly hateful.

They're struggling with the reality that allowing that (which they've always wanted) leads pretty quickly to this. they're having their "are we the baddies" moment and it's uncomfortable.
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But how many will realize that deportations will do nothing to resolve the fact that they suck and they are the problem.

It’s just that they are hateful. They are hateful losers.
 
hockeylover said:
Honestly the it’s still early stuff is the opposite of comforting to me. I’m sure I’d be classified a worrier/overeacting but even I wasn’t expecting to get this authoritarian this quickly.
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I agree 95% with the consensus most of the time, but is this not a message board where we can discuss things? The situation is very bad, it's very disturbing, and it's getting worse. I was not disputing that at all. That doesn't mean there isn't an overreaction sometimes.

WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
The first inning has entered the chat.
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I know some people still can't figure this out, but just to reiterate, again, we all know Trumpism has been around for a while. But Trump had no power when Joe Biden was the President. He was just sworn in on January 20, so it's been about 2 months out of a 48 month term. The period of time in which he's had the power to do things in this term is 4.16%. It's going to be a battle the entire time, it's going to suck, and it will exhaust the hell out of everyone and get very dark. And yes, this is already happening. All I was saying is that we are early in this process.
 
axlsalinger said:
I agree 95% with the consensus most of the time, but is this not a message board where we can discuss things? The situation is very bad, it's very disturbing, and it's getting worse. I was not disputing that at all. That doesn't mean there isn't an overreaction sometimes.


I know some people still can't figure this out, but just to reiterate, again, we all know Trumpism has been around for a while. But Trump had no power when Joe Biden was the President. He was just sworn in on January 20, so it's been about 2 months out of a 48 month term. The period of time in which he's had the power to do things in this term is 4.16%. It's going to be a battle the entire time, it's going to suck, and it will exhaust the hell out of everyone and get very dark. And yes, this is already happening. All I was saying is that we are early in this process.
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What part am I overreacting about? Let’s discuss further.
 
zeke said:
Trump had plenty of power during biden's term. He literally set gop domestic policy and tactics and conducted foreign policy negotiations with major allies and enemies the entire time.
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Fair point, although he was playing pretend president at Mar-a-Lago and didn't have the power of the presidency at that point, some of the stuff he was "negotiating" is relevant now, for sure. And he was definitely still the leader of the Republican Party and influencing policy. I did already say it wasn't the best analogy.
 
hockeylover said:
What part am I overreacting about? Let’s discuss further.
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I wasn't referring to you specifically, I don't remember exactly what started the debate. I do know Mindz was upset there weren't more mass protests and my thought was that it's still pretty early and there have already been a number of protests. Trump got 77 million votes and there is a massive disinformation campaign down there combined with an incredible amount of ignorance and cognitive dissonance. It's only been 2 months was my point. There will be more and they will grow exponentially.

We can see from Republican town halls that people are reacting pretty strongly, to the point that there are going to be fewer Republican town halls going forward. I think Tesla probably is finished as a brand. The attack on millions of federal workers is going to have a similar effect to covid, in that many apolitical people on the right, even those with their heads in the sand, are going to be made aware of what's going on because a friend or family member is affected.

The attacks on habeus corpus and judges is a sign that things are escalating quickly. You were right to be upset about it, it's sick and it's evil. My only point here is that this will lead to a legal battle that is going to take months if not years. It's interesting that John Roberts has already weighed in. It's not going to be resolved overnight, and we aren't going to win every battle.
 
I get that we are mostly on the same page re: Trump is bad but posting that Mindz sounds like WeHave and is overreacting for pointing out the direction they’re going in is kinda silly imo. He’s been accused of that so many times in this thread and it never ends up being remotely the case.
 
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