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OT: American Politics

Yeah, I'm not sure why you thought I needed this explanation.

I'm talking about why Elon Musk brought up fertility rates seemingly out of nowhere today.

but i mean you know, right?

its part and parcel with the whole "godless/feminized society/great white replacement/gays/abortion/birthcontrol/chrstian-freedom-from-roman-american empite" worldview we're dealing with here.

they've literally re-written history and once you're in you're in the whole way.
 
but i mean you know, right?

its part and parcel with the whole "godless/feminized society/great white replacement/gays/abortion/birthcontrol/chrstian-freedom-from-roman-american empite" worldview we're dealing with here.

they've literally re-written history and once you're in you're in the whole way.

Yeah, I suppose it was mostly rhetorical but man, no one's even poorly pretending anymore.
 
Yeah, I suppose it was mostly rhetorical but man, no one's even poorly pretending anymore.

thats what i assumed.

yeah, none of this surprises me anymore. this is the movement that is happening all over the world, and to people i know very well.

and it just doesn't matter that that they've needed to write a fake alternate history to make it all make sense.
 
I still am a little heartbroken at the people who've fallen victim to a lot of nonsense tbh. We reached a sort of uneasy peace in my family after Biden won because the MAGAs have gone semi-quiet but I'm still expecting all hell to break loose in 2024.

(One of them seems to have long-covid, has been in and out of the hospital with lung issues but they're also Freddie Andersen-level vague about what's going on)
 
I still am a little heartbroken at the people who've fallen victim to a lot of nonsense tbh. We reached a sort of uneasy peace in my family after Biden won but I'm still expecting all hell to break loose in 2024.

I have some (desperate?) hope that the coming Trump-DeSantis war will blow things up on the right real good.
 
Nah, DeSantis may be as bad as Trump (maybe worse, since he isn't a fucking imbecile like Trump) but his followers are just people who decided to vote for him. Trump's followers are cult members who do whatever Trump commands them to do. And the GOP apparatchiks who see this Svengali-like power and want to co-opt it for their own ends will support him. He's going to win the nomination in 2024 and if Republican efforts to suppress voters and gerrymander the outcome still doesn't get him over the finish line and he loses, he will claim that everything was rigged and they'll do a rinse and repeat of the coup in January of 2025.
 
Don't sleep on DeSantis like that

Truly scares me more than Trump
I think he should cause he is smart enough to coup correctly.

But, to WeHave's point, I do think there is a certain cult following around the dotard that DeSantis has not fully capture yet.

or in other words, I think you're both right, more or less.
 
I think he should cause he is smart enough to coup correctly.

But, to WeHave's point, I do think there is a certain cult following around the dotard that DeSantis has not fully capture yet.

or in other words, I think you're both right, more or less.
My feeling is DeSantis is tempering that rhetoric until he needs it. He currently does not. This guy is very calculating, many things he's done here was with the oval office in mind down the road. He doesn't telegraph like Donald.
 
It's interesting to hear stuff about Pence for 2024 because my MAGA family would actually be ecstatic about that I think. They're probably more accurately described as hardcore religious than Trump fans but they were happy to play along that Trump was a Christian because they felt he was fighting for them (because they're so oppressed and now they can have christmas again!1!)

Scary shit.
 
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