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OT: Coronavirus Resources - and other things to not worry about

MindzEye said:
That's what is getting me here...It's great to proclaim that we know so much more about covid today and how we're in a better place than when these mask mandates went into place...but we also know a lot more about long covid today and we're willfully ignoring it's long term impacts.
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cause politics. your average Vlad is done with the pandemic. so politicians are throwing in the towel until we totally fuck our healthcare system, again. we know how this goes...
 
Preston said:
The studies that have come out just in the last month or two on long covid have been staggering in a very very bad way. I don't recall looking at any data on long covid and thinking "hmm this seems like it's overblown" (and my internal biases will always lean that way because it's what I want to believe). It's a full blown crisis and we're not treating it like one because we prefer to close our eyes and prefer to believe that everything is normal.
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I have been having this argument with my father. He is finally coming around, I think. Until he listens to some right wing blowhards podcast, and then we are back to square one.

Ironically, despite him wanting to end lockdowns he is still basically terrified of going anywhere in public. Our dinner out at my favourite resto last week was his first time dining out since covid, I believe.
 
Wayward DP said:
I have been having this argument with my father. He is finally coming around, I think. Until he listens to some right wing blowhards podcast, and then we are back to square one.

Ironically, despite him wanting to end lockdowns he is still basically terrified of going anywhere in public. Our dinner out at my favourite resto last week was his first time dining out since covid, I believe.
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I've given up with my father. Just today he said "it's over for me. It's just another flu now." Granted, he has a son who has been suffering grossly for the last 6-7 months.

I get it for him tho in some ways. He's old and a lot of long covid symptoms basically age you. They age your brain, they age your immune system, they age your cardiovascular health, etc. I mean the dude probably would barely notice long covid. But for younger folks out there, it can't be fun to feel like you've aged 30 years overnight. There is a lot more to lose the younger you are at this stage of the pandemic I think. For them it might be worth waiting for science to bail them out.
 
Wayward DP said:
cause politics. your average Vlad is done with the pandemic. so politicians are throwing in the towel until we totally fuck our healthcare system, again. we know how this goes...
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It's shit like this that makes me doubt the future of socialized healthcare in Canada, and it's shit like that which makes me inch closer and closer to moving to Mexico. If I'm going to have to pay for quality healthcare, I have no interest in doing it while wearing a parka for 4-5 months a year.
 
I will still mask up indoors but I have no problems with loosening up restrictions

For me, it’s all about the hospital being able to function normally.

The government doesn’t need to protect me from Covid but it does need to guarantee me a hospital bed if I get seriously ill (covid or all the afflictions that kill us)
 
CH1 said:
For me, it’s all about the hospital being able to function normally.
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"non essential" surgeries are still massively backlogged. Mrs Eye is on the wait list for a procedure at the moment that we've been told is 3-4x the wait it was pre covid. Nothing life threatening thankfully, but it's definitely quality of life affecting.

So they're doing this at the expense of people like my wife.
 
MindzEye said:
I mean, I'm open to hearing the argument for this....but I don't see how this doesn't fly in the face of everything that we actually know about covid. The shit is airborn, masking is extremely effective against it, and we're still reporting about 2000 new cases per day.

Am I the only one this seems like absolute madness to?
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I'm all for Covid being over... when it is actually fucking over.

Living with covid means living with masks, vaccine passport (my local pub is still doing it as many of the regulars asked them to keep it), some capacity restrictions etc.

Wife is a teacher and thinking about her being around 20+ unmasked kids is panic attack inducing.
 
I've always been of the opinion that vaccine mandates should be "had a vaccine within the last 6 months" or nothing. And mask mandates should be KN95 or better or nothing. So whatever I guess. We're on our own. Protect yourself.. Or don't. It doesn't matter anymore. We'll be locked down as soon as we get back to a variant with the prior virulence anyway.

And once we figure out that constant reinfections lead to poorer results maybe we'll start taking it seriously again.
 
trujaysfan said:
Wife is a teacher and thinking about her being around 20+ unmasked kids is panic attack inducing.
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I couldn't imagine. Wife & I both run appointment based businesses where we're not exposed to more than 1-2 people at a time and we're both struggling with being comfortable around clients who want to go maskless in those settings.
 
MindzEye said:
"non essential" surgeries are still massively backlogged. Mrs Eye is on the wait list for a procedure at the moment that we've been told is 3-4x the wait it was pre covid. Nothing life threatening thankfully, but it's definitely quality of life affecting.

So they're doing this at the expense of people like my wife.
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That sucks.

My dentist referred me to a cancer hospital just to be “100% sure” everything is fine.

I haven’t heard back. That was 7 months ago. They referred me again a few weeks ago.

The system is broken.

In this particular case, I am not worried at all but this situation might be unbearable otherwise.
 
CH1 said:
I will still mask up indoors but I have no problems with loosening up restrictions

For me, it’s all about the hospital being able to function normally.

The government doesn’t need to protect me from Covid but it does need to guarantee me a hospital bed if I get seriously ill (covid or all the afflictions that kill us)
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so just because they are not overrun with covid patients does not mean hospitals are anything close to 'normal'.

it is going to take years, at best, to catch up on missed surgeries etc.

I would be interested in hearing what the folks on the front lines think about this type of policy decision...
 
MindzEye said:
"non essential" surgeries are still massively backlogged. Mrs Eye is on the wait list for a procedure at the moment that we've been told is 3-4x the wait it was pre covid. Nothing life threatening thankfully, but it's definitely quality of life affecting.

So they're doing this at the expense of people like my wife.
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beat me to it but well said.
 
I’m truly more tired of people than I am covid itself tbh. Yesterday a coworker asked me about my covid experience, I told her how brutal it was for me pre-vaccines, she made some sympathetic noises then she says that she never wanted the vaccine and feels that she was forced into it at work and by her family who were “funny” about hanging out with her unvaccinated.

I wanted to punch her in the face.

Have whatever dumb opinion you want but if someone says they got really sick from an illness and you complain about getting a vaccine that would’ve prevented me from getting so sick, you’re just an asshole.
 
hockeylover said:
I’m truly more tired of people than I am covid itself tbh. Yesterday a coworker asked me about my covid experience, I told her how brutal it was for me pre-vaccines, she made some sympathetic noises then she says that she never wanted the vaccine and feels that she was forced into it at work and by her family who were “funny” about hanging out with her unvaccinated.

I wanted to punch her in the face.
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the frustrating part is that the idiots make it that much harder on the rest of us.

the reward for following the rules is...nothing!
 
Preston said:
I've always been of the opinion that vaccine mandates should be "had a vaccine within the last 6 months" or nothing. And mask mandates should be KN95 or better or nothing. So whatever I guess. We're on our own. Protect yourself.. Or don't. It doesn't matter anymore. We'll be locked down as soon as we get back to a variant with the prior virulence anyway.

And once we figure out that constant reinfections lead to poorer results maybe we'll start taking it seriously again.
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To be scientifically valid then 6 months.... to be a big "go fuck yourself" to the anti vaxxers then anything is of value.
 
Wayward DP said:
so just because they are not overrun with covid patients does not mean hospitals are anything close to 'normal'.

it is going to take years, at best, to catch up on missed surgeries etc.

I would be interested in hearing what the folks on the front lines think about this type of policy decision...
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I didn't say conditions were normal...but perhaps close enough and relatively acceptable (ie extremely inconvenient rather than life threatening)
Definitions of what is acceptable vary...I personally don't think they were good enough during pre-covid normal but that's a health care budget issue
 
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