Wayward DP
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yeah, this
cause politics. your average Vlad is done with the pandemic. so politicians are throwing in the towel until we totally fuck our healthcare system, again. we know how this goes...That's what is getting me here...It's great to proclaim that we know so much more about covid today and how we're in a better place than when these mask mandates went into place...but we also know a lot more about long covid today and we're willfully ignoring it's long term impacts.
I have been having this argument with my father. He is finally coming around, I think. Until he listens to some right wing blowhards podcast, and then we are back to square one.The studies that have come out just in the last month or two on long covid have been staggering in a very very bad way. I don't recall looking at any data on long covid and thinking "hmm this seems like it's overblown" (and my internal biases will always lean that way because it's what I want to believe). It's a full blown crisis and we're not treating it like one because we prefer to close our eyes and prefer to believe that everything is normal.
I've given up with my father. Just today he said "it's over for me. It's just another flu now." Granted, he has a son who has been suffering grossly for the last 6-7 months.I have been having this argument with my father. He is finally coming around, I think. Until he listens to some right wing blowhards podcast, and then we are back to square one.
Ironically, despite him wanting to end lockdowns he is still basically terrified of going anywhere in public. Our dinner out at my favourite resto last week was his first time dining out since covid, I believe.
cause politics. your average Vlad is done with the pandemic. so politicians are throwing in the towel until we totally fuck our healthcare system, again. we know how this goes...
For me, it’s all about the hospital being able to function normally.
I'm all for Covid being over... when it is actually fucking over.I mean, I'm open to hearing the argument for this....but I don't see how this doesn't fly in the face of everything that we actually know about covid. The shit is airborn, masking is extremely effective against it, and we're still reporting about 2000 new cases per day.
Am I the only one this seems like absolute madness to?
Wife is a teacher and thinking about her being around 20+ unmasked kids is panic attack inducing.
"non essential" surgeries are still massively backlogged. Mrs Eye is on the wait list for a procedure at the moment that we've been told is 3-4x the wait it was pre covid. Nothing life threatening thankfully, but it's definitely quality of life affecting.
So they're doing this at the expense of people like my wife.
Also known as American Covid Response Planno, what she actually means is "we are done trying to manage this pandemic and are just going to pretend it does not exist until we are forced to acknowledge it again"
so just because they are not overrun with covid patients does not mean hospitals are anything close to 'normal'.I will still mask up indoors but I have no problems with loosening up restrictions
For me, it’s all about the hospital being able to function normally.
The government doesn’t need to protect me from Covid but it does need to guarantee me a hospital bed if I get seriously ill (covid or all the afflictions that kill us)
beat me to it but well said."non essential" surgeries are still massively backlogged. Mrs Eye is on the wait list for a procedure at the moment that we've been told is 3-4x the wait it was pre covid. Nothing life threatening thankfully, but it's definitely quality of life affecting.
So they're doing this at the expense of people like my wife.
the frustrating part is that the idiots make it that much harder on the rest of us.I’m truly more tired of people than I am covid itself tbh. Yesterday a coworker asked me about my covid experience, I told her how brutal it was for me pre-vaccines, she made some sympathetic noises then she says that she never wanted the vaccine and feels that she was forced into it at work and by her family who were “funny” about hanging out with her unvaccinated.
I wanted to punch her in the face.
To be scientifically valid then 6 months.... to be a big "go fuck yourself" to the anti vaxxers then anything is of value.I've always been of the opinion that vaccine mandates should be "had a vaccine within the last 6 months" or nothing. And mask mandates should be KN95 or better or nothing. So whatever I guess. We're on our own. Protect yourself.. Or don't. It doesn't matter anymore. We'll be locked down as soon as we get back to a variant with the prior virulence anyway.
And once we figure out that constant reinfections lead to poorer results maybe we'll start taking it seriously again.
so just because they are not overrun with covid patients does not mean hospitals are anything close to 'normal'.
it is going to take years, at best, to catch up on missed surgeries etc.
I would be interested in hearing what the folks on the front lines think about this type of policy decision...