OT: Fitness Nerds and Babe

[lecoqsportif]

I’ll happily exchange at least a decade of my life for continuing to eat rice, pasta & potatoes instead of the likes of quinoa & barley.

I’ll never consider pasta or potatoes a treat, but we try to moderate intake. Try. Rice sux, so I’m good with brown rice or barley instead.

Anyway, I more or less follow Bittman’s “Vegan Before 6” method - but I’m more a occasional “pescatarian before 6” - I like a variety of tinned fish and work that into the lunch rotation. Otherwise, it’s plant based - mostly pulses and veggies (and no pasta or spuds.)

After 6, the whole zoo is in the menu. Bacon wrapped giraffe? Do it. Sort of. We try to balance, but it’s not easy during the busy season with kiddos.

Refined sugar is significantly limited, I do consider that a treat. My one potential weak spot would be wine… which I drink moderately… weekends only, never more than a few glasses during an evening to avoid spikes. I rarely drink beer and only drink hard stuff at Christmas.

 

[MindzEye]

Rice sux anyway

 

[lecoqsportif]

meh

OK. A proper risotto is good.

But plain rice?

meh

Especially compared to pasta and spuds!

 

[MindzEye]

But plain rice?

I think I've found your problem ma'am.

No such thing as plain rice in a latin household.

 

[Deckie007]

CICO is still the king of weight loss. Like I did Keto and lost a bunch of weight, but I was also calorie counting too. There isn't really settled science around whole insulin resistance...I've seen some people like Jason Phung swear it's the most important thing ever and others say it's not really a factor for most people at all. So I dunno. Exercise + calorie restriction seems to be the ticket generally.

 

[Aberdeen]

 

[Montana]

CICO is still the king of weight loss. Like I did Keto and lost a bunch of weight, but I was also calorie counting too. There isn't really settled science around whole insulin resistance...I've seen some people like Jason Phung swear it's the most important thing ever and others say it's not really a factor for most people at all. So I dunno. Exercise + calorie restriction seems to be the ticket generally.

Yeah all those diets imo are just elaborate forms of calorie restriction….same with intermittent fasting etc….and I find the science to be pretty lacking that any added benefits over and above calorie restriction/weight loss, aren’t massively overplayed.

I’m all for people doing whatever works for them and what they’ll stick to…..but in the ends it’s really just CICO like you say.


All the energy people put into caring about ketones, and paleo, and IF, and being vegan, and dairy, and gluten etc etc would be better served focused on just making sure you drink more/enough water and prioritizing consistent quality sleep.

That shit plays a massively more important role in one’s health and how good they feel day to day, than all these other gimmicks Rogan et all get people into, imo.

 

[lecoqsportif]

I do follow Uncle Roger’s advice though - use a rice cooker.

 

[Artnes]

Quinoa salad is my go to. Olive oil, red wine vinegar and peppers. Simple but edible

 

[Wayward DP]

Quinoa salad is my go to. Olive oil, red wine vinegar and peppers. Simple but edible

we have a few different quinoa salad recipes.

main summer ones are quinoa + chick peas + local veg (olive oil and lemon juice dressing) or quinoa + black beans + kale and sun-dried tomatoes (olive oil, lime, and cumin dressing)

have fucked around with farro before too. quite tasty but also quite costly.

and from like april-june we basically just have salads for lunches, sourced almost entirely from market veg (plus chick peas, pumpkin seeds, etc.)

gotta say I don't get the rice cooker thing. cooking rice is one of the simplest stovetop tasks out there...

 

[axlsalinger]

Lots of good advice here. I'll just add that I'm now convinced that pretty much everyone should be taking creatine. Certainly if you're lifting weights, will help you go just a tiny bit harder, and as far as I understand it, helps retain a little bit of water in the muscles which looks better but may cause a bit of weight gain in the beginning.

It's no miracle drug, but a lot of studies lately showing cognitive benefits in addition to what was already known. It's also one of the most studied supplements of all time, so any side effects appear to be minimal.

Also, it's dirt cheap. There's no proven benefit to any of the "fancier" (ie. more expensive) stuff, so just stick to 3-5 grams (3000-5000mg) of basic creatine monohydrate powder daily. Works perfectly tossed into a protein shake.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD8-CJ6OuAQ

 

[Montana]

yeah for how useless a shocking number of vitamins/supplements are at making any noticeable difference (or having scientific studies to strongly support its benefits)……Creatine has been thoroughly studied more than just about anything, and always comes back with basically nothing but positive tangible benefits.

 

[mbow30]

Pro tip: dissolve in a bit of hot water before consuming.

 

[Montana]

Anyone here have a success story of fully healing elbow tendinitis after 35-40?

I’ve tried all shorts of different techniques & exercises…..massage balls, floss bands, eccentric exercises, stretches, etc etc….and while the odd thing might provide short term relief, nothing has effectively improved/cured the tendinitis.

Picked up a Theraband Flexbar a few weeks ago and have been using that intermittently as they’re apparently great for it, but so far I haven’t seen any results….maybe just need to be more consistent with that for longer, but early returns haven’t been encouraging.

Had a virtual appointment with a doc to refill a script, and brought it up to them and they mentioned maybe getting some tendon imaging done. Anyone ever done that, and discover anything worthwhile over and above regular epicondylitis diagnosis?

Anyone tried platelet injections? Dry needling? Stem cells? any underground lab steroids like Deca? HGH? Peptides?


I’ll throw any voodoo spells you cats got at this.

 

[anne25]

RICE

Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation, for a few days. Then mild exercise.

First make sure it is tendinitis.

When I had it in my shoulder a few years back the best exercise was standing next to a wall and slowly walking my fingers up the wall, holding position for a bit trying to reach a bit higher each day. For me lifting my arm up to the side was the big problem so rather than facing the wall I stood sideways and tried to get closer to the wall every couple of days. That worked over time but if you want quicker results try visiting a physiotherapist.

For some (most) healing can be a slow process.

 

[mbow30]

Anyone here have a success story of fully healing elbow tendinitis after 35-40?

I’ve tried all shorts of different techniques & exercises…..massage balls, floss bands, eccentric exercises, stretches, etc etc….and while the odd thing might provide short term relief, nothing has effectively improved/cured the tendinitis.

Picked up a Theraband Flexbar a few weeks ago and have been using that intermittently as they’re apparently great for it, but so far I haven’t seen any results….maybe just need to be more consistent with that for longer, but early returns haven’t been encouraging.

Had a virtual appointment with a doc to refill a script, and brought it up to them and they mentioned maybe getting some tendon imaging done. Anyone ever done that, and discover anything worthwhile over and above regular epicondylitis diagnosis?

Anyone tried platelet injections? Dry needling? Stem cells? any underground lab steroids like Deca? HGH? Peptides?


I’ll throw any voodoo spells you cats got at this.

 

[Wayward DP]

Anyone here have a success story of fully healing elbow tendinitis after 35-40?

I’ve tried all shorts of different techniques & exercises…..massage balls, floss bands, eccentric exercises, stretches, etc etc….and while the odd thing might provide short term relief, nothing has effectively improved/cured the tendinitis.

Picked up a Theraband Flexbar a few weeks ago and have been using that intermittently as they’re apparently great for it, but so far I haven’t seen any results….maybe just need to be more consistent with that for longer, but early returns haven’t been encouraging.

Had a virtual appointment with a doc to refill a script, and brought it up to them and they mentioned maybe getting some tendon imaging done. Anyone ever done that, and discover anything worthwhile over and above regular epicondylitis diagnosis?

Anyone tried platelet injections? Dry needling? Stem cells? any underground lab steroids like Deca? HGH? Peptides?


I’ll throw any voodoo spells you cats got at this.

I’ve done plenty of dry needling, with great results. But never for elbow tendonitis…it’s always been in muscles for me

 

[Montana]

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Lifelong tendinitis it is.

 

[Montana]

I’ve done plenty of dry needling, with great results. But never for elbow tendonitis…it’s always been in muscles for me

Apparently the idea is that since they get such poor blood supply, the dry needling encourages blood into the area for repair.


I’m generally pretty skeptical of this sort of thing, but am willing to take a shot at this point….even if just for the placebo.

 

[Preston]

I'm a skeptical cunt by nature and almost have a reverse placebo with most of that shit. I go into these things with a bitch ass attitude expecting them to fail. And to be fair it's mostly all scammy trash.

I tried dry needling years ago with a poor attitude and it did nothing for me, though I'm sure it depends on the practitioner too. To my surprise some decently quality studies have come out since then in support of it maybe having a positive impact if combined with other interventions.

The one scammy sounding thing that worked for me was MAT, which I tried at the recommendation of ME (we even used the same person which connects us forever <3). This isn't gonna heal any injury but it's gonna get to the root of the problem rather than put a bandaid on it. The impact was immediate, drastic, and despite my poor attitude I was blown away from the moment I got off the table (you have to keep up with it and train your body yourself for those impacts to remain). There is actually minimal research on MAT, and the few studies I've found have not been that favorable to it. But this wasn't no placebo for me. I went into it wanting to hate it like I do with everything and came away wondering why I ever wasted my time with dozens of physiotherapists.