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XPOFAN
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Well MLB does like to keep the "knife to the throat" threat alive for franchise cities that don't want to pony up that free stadium.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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MLB Network exists to pimp for MLB. A documentary about the Expos isn't exactly an appropriate vehicle to accomplish this because MLB's role in the whole mess is something which I'm sure they'd rather keep buried. The only way MLB signs off on a project like this is if there's an end game in which MLB can be the hero of the story.
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
surprised that it's 6 years. was expecting big coin but less term.
Habs4Life
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Nope. Offense is already better than last year and they lead the majors. Barring injury, the starting pitching and pen are already better than last year also. Not to mention, the off-season has just started.
A bunch of hyperbole just because the Jays did not overpay for Price.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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We can only hope.
LeafFan over on Leaf board is pretty choked at the way Rogers is cheaping out.
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
Can't blame them. Toronto snapped every damn single available ticket and jersey at the Rogers Centre for two months. Basically telling Rogers, if you spend the money, we'll pick up the tab. Rogers seems to have other ideas.
Habs4Life
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I am not really phased. Happ went for market value. The Jays were in a position where they had to pay what the market was asking because they had to fill the rest of their starting rotation.
They were NEVER going to be in David Price's ballpark. The Red Sox paid $30m more than the next closest bidder.
I want them to do more and I still think that they will.
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
Agreed. But that remains to be seen.
The Price signing was absolutely stupid that will blow up in their face just like fatass Pablo and Ramirez. History has shown you get clobbered with these moves , luckily some teams are able to peddle their mistakes like Fielder and Wells.
I would of paid 35 mil a year with his opt out after 2 and the Jays can walk after 3 or a max 4 year deal. Slim chance he opts out , I dont see an ace in 3 years maybe a 14 game winner and no one will pony up 31 mil to top his current deal .
David Price is actually worth every penny of his contract. He put up 12.5 war in 2014 + 2015 combined. That's INSANE. You are looking at about 8m/war, and there is sometimes a premium for pitchers. If he even brings 1 world series to Boston it's worth it. They needed a front of the line starter. Only toronto fans can justify in their brains that this wasn't worth it when it was in fact. They just paid most likely a 1.5 war pitcher Happ 12m. Price is 3.5x more valuable than Happ. Price actually gives them a legitimate shot at the division this year and let's not forget by 30 years he's he's a 5 time all star, cy young winner + several time runner up cy young winner. It may be 1 year too long, but they will more than make up their money for it in the first 4-5 years alone, easily. Boston knows how to win, Toronto doesn't, even if they give out crappy contracts to hanram/panda (who both should rebound) they will still win before Toronto. I don't even see Toronto winning anytime soon, they have 0 prospects left and won't spend at the same level as NYY/Boston, they are donezo. They have good hitting and ok D. That's about it, and they had that last year too and now their team is just older.
Habs4Life
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I feel like you don't even watch the Jays LOL.
-They are WAY more than "OK" on D. Donalson, Tulo and Goins are exceptional in the infield. Pillar is one of the best at his position, Bautista has an unreal arm. Oh... and some guy named Martin behind the plate,
-Getting old? Sanchez 23, Osuna 20, Stroman 24, Tulo 31, Donaldson 30, Goins 27, Travis 24, Pillar 26, Pompey 23, Revere 27. :lol
-As for not winning anytime soon... The leagues best offence got even better. They did not start the season last year with Tulo, Revere, and Pillar blossomed half way through the year. Add to that a healthy Devon Travis who was batting .304 when he got hurt and that shit is scary good.
Last years starting rotation
R.A. Dickey
Mark Buehrle
Drew Hutchison
Aaron Sanchez
Daniel Norris
This Year
Stroman
Dickey
Estrada
Happ
Sanchez/Chavez
PS: The offseason JUST started.
Habs4Life
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As for Price being "worth the money". I can't buy it. The Sox paid $30m more than the next closest bid.
Is Price awesome? Yup. But I understand why the Jays did not pony up the $. You don't have to spend all your money on aces to win the World Series, especially when you don't have the revenue that the NYY and Red Sox have. If you need a recent example, KC let Zack Greinke go.
Is Price awesome? Yup. But I understand why the Jays did not pony up the $. You don't have to spend all your money on aces to win the World Series, especially when you don't have the revenue that the NYY and Red Sox have. If you need a recent example, KC let Zack Greinke go.
UWHabs
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A "realistic" aging curve for Price has him worth the contract. But it's still a ton of money, and there's probably a 2/3 chance that he's not worth that money.
But otherwise, the Jays are still in a good shape for next year. Sadly, it doesn't look like the owners are willing to invest to really push them forward to be a dominant force. An extra 15-20M could really solidify this team. I mean, can you imagine if they could have signed Price instead of Happ how much better the team would look?
Right now, they really need to add another bullpen arm or two, and then I'll be fine. Not like KC won with dominant starters last year, and the Jays offense is absolute murder.
But otherwise, the Jays are still in a good shape for next year. Sadly, it doesn't look like the owners are willing to invest to really push them forward to be a dominant force. An extra 15-20M could really solidify this team. I mean, can you imagine if they could have signed Price instead of Happ how much better the team would look?
Right now, they really need to add another bullpen arm or two, and then I'll be fine. Not like KC won with dominant starters last year, and the Jays offense is absolute murder.
He's worth the money, David Price sells jerseys and merchandise, not JA Happs and Marco Estradas, lol. He's been a top 5 pitcher almost every year he's been in the league. Because Toronto didn't sign him, he's not worth the money, had he signed there, he'd be worth every penny and then some lol. Toronto doesn't want to spend the money, otherwise they needed a #1 pitcher to slot ahead of Stroman. If they don't make the post season, it will because Rogers cheaped out. There were PLENTY of top rotation starters available this offseason, one of the rarest you had such a quantity of high quality starters. Plain and simple, rogers went cheap.