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OT: MLB Thread

Right now jays need 1 starter, a few bullpen arms and a 2nd baseman.

Still have navarro as a trade chip to get some of those too
 
So my favorite baseball team, the L.A. Dodgers, basically overhauled their roster last night, and are trying to acquire Cole Hamels. Interesting.
 
Yeah I know.

Joel Sherman: Dodgers have gone for less drama and firepower, more flexibility with roster/finances.
 
Yet the Dodgers aren't really any better yet on paper than last season, IMO. In fact, they might be worse.

Not true at all. They have a trade in place for Rollins, Kendrick is an upgrade. McCarthy is about to be signed. Grandal is a nice player. They got a bunch of decent guys from the Marlins. And they basically got rid of Kemp who is going to put up pretty crappy numbers in Petco. Friedman is a fkn genius, never doubt his ability. He's possibly the best GM in the entire league. Yes he had to shoot a lot of salary to Miami, but he basically bought the 12th overall pick in the 2012 draft who actually was putting up nice minor league numbers, but I wouldn't have traded Heaney for 1 year of Kendrick. But, he wants to win now, so that's what you do. The jays needed a guy like Friedman, too bad they are still stuck with AA.
 
Dude, it's not all clear that Kendrick and Rollins are an upgrade on Gordon and Ramirez. Rollins is nearly done . . . and a healthy Kemp is a great player. The Dodgers are no better than they were two days ago and are probably a little worse . . . but it's early.
 
Right now jays need 1 starter, a few bullpen arms and a 2nd baseman.

Still have navarro as a trade chip to get some of those too

They don't really need a 2nd baseman anymore, but if they get one that's great.

They already have 4 all-stars in the infield (Martin/Donaldson/Reyes/Encanacion) - just having a good defender at 2nd won't hurt them.

The pen must be addressed. A #1 would be nice, but that's unlikely.
 
They don't really need a 2nd baseman anymore, but if they get one that's great.

They already have 4 all-stars in the infield (Martin/Donaldson/Reyes/Encanacion) - just having a good defender at 2nd won't hurt them.

The pen must be addressed. A #1 would be nice, but that's unlikely.

I agree, I don't know why AA keeps mentioning in the news though that he might still be looking for a 2b. Also, they missed the boat on Gregerson. I'm sorry, but the excuse of trading for BP help is BS. I would never want to trade away a young asset for bp when you could have signed them in the offseason with no compensation attached. They 100% need a young #1 starter in their prime. CIN seems like an obvious trade candidate, Phillips + Cueto? On condition Cueto does a trade/sign. They also need a legitimate closer.
 
Boston is having arguably the best offseason. Miley/Porcello for really just extras on their team. They now have a pretty solid SP. They could use a #1 still, but those guys are VERY solid #3/#4 guys.
 
Dude, it's not all clear that Kendrick and Rollins are an upgrade on Gordon and Ramirez. Rollins is nearly done . . . and a healthy Kemp is a great player. The Dodgers are no better than they were two days ago and are probably a little worse . . . but it's early.

Rollins had a decent .714 and 2.4WAR last year. He's still solid.
 
Boston is having arguably the best offseason. Miley/Porcello for really just extras on their team. They now have a pretty solid SP. They could use a #1 still, but those guys are VERY solid #3/#4 guys.

Even with Porcello, Boston does not have solid pitching at all. It's him and a shakey Clay. That's it.

Miley will get rocked in the AL East. He's a mid 4era starter in the National League. He's worse than JA Happ. All the numbers prove that.

Boston was hurt bigtime by Lester.

Boston has one elite OPS/WAR hitter and he's 40. Toronto has 5.
 
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Buster Olney: Boston projected rotation: Clay Buchholz, Joe Kelly, Wade Miley, Rick Porcello, Anthony Raunado.

They'd look a lot better with Lester.
 
Buster Olney: Boston projected rotation: Clay Buchholz, Joe Kelly, Wade Miley, Rick Porcello, Anthony Raunado.

They'd look a lot better with Lester.

Exactly, it's not great at all. Miley wiill get rocked in the AL East. His stuff doesn't translate well in the AL East.
 
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Exactly, it's not great at all. Miley wiill get rocked in the AL East. His stuff doesn't translate well in the AL East.

I don't think he will, that's your opinion. Everyone on the Jays board was hard to get him. It's funny now that he's with the red sox, he's going to get rocked. I don't think Boston is done either. Either way, they saw their needs and addressed them, and still really are only 1 SP away from being almost a guaranteed lock, while the Jays have several holes still. That's what separates teams that want to and can win, vs teams that do things half ass.

Also, they really don't have many other weaknesses, they still were able to keep their good prospects. Hate all you want, but at the end of the day, 10 playoffs in ~20 years, and most likely to do it again, while the Jays most likely won't unless they start taking part in the action.
 
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I don't think he will, that's your opinion. Everyone on the Jays board was hard to get him. It's funny now that he's with the red sox, he's going to get rocked. I don't think Boston is done either. Either way, they saw their needs and addressed them, and still really are only 1 SP away from being almost a guaranteed lock, while the Jays have several holes still. That's what separates teams that want to and can win, vs teams that do things half ass.

Also, they really don't have many other weaknesses, they still were able to keep their good prospects. Hate all you want, but at the end of the day, 10 playoffs in ~20 years, and most likely to do it again, while the Jays most likely won't unless they start taking part in the action.

I don't hate the Red Sox and I don't really have an opinion on Miley. Just going purely by stats. They need more pitching and more offence. I mentioned how they have one elite OPS/WAR player, while the Jays have 5.

I think you hate the Jays though.
 
I don't hate the Red Sox and I don't really have an opinion on Miley. Just going purely by stats. They need more pitching and more offence. I mentioned how they have one elite OPS/WAR player, while the Jays have 5.

I think you hate the Jays though.

Why because I'm impartial not living in toronto? It's the same thing every year with Toronto fans, not just Blue Jay fans, so I'm not surprised. Yes, the Blue Jays have 5 elite 'projected' WAR players. They should start preselling playoff tickets now lol ...
 
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