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LeafOfFaith said:
I don't think the Zemo pictured there, Nazi and all, is the same Zemo in the Cap series.

I believe the Baron Zemo we know in the comics with the purple mask is the son of the original Baron Zemo who had the mask glued to his face in battle with Cap where acid spilled on him or some shit (very early on in the series). Then the son took on the name and costume of the father and seeks revenge on Cap, and...gets his mask glued onto his face in battle with Cap. Family tradition, apparently.

I don't remember who they said the movies Zemo was exactly, but probably the father or the son of the comics.
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Yeah it's been EONS since I read that old Sgt Fury comic that ended up somewhere (now decomposed) in a Vancouver landfill after my mom cleaned out room one spring so I don't remember anything about the story other than the name "Zemo" for some odd reason.. It was only one of a good number of silver age Marvel comics my Uncle had back in the late 70s. I *think* after doing some chores for him he let me take whatever I wanted from those stacks. Not seeing any DC comic titles, I just grabbed that one a couple others titles. Still had his Iron Man #2 (that I gave back to him after a couple decades).
 
JackBurton said:
Eh, all TDK triligy had pretty realistic scenes compared to other superhero films.
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Nah, it's just shit that you find it more comfortable to suspend disbelief for.

For example, the hijack scene in TDKR is equally as physically impossible in the universe we all share as the God of Thunder appearing and shoving a lightning bolt up a frost giant's ass.

Literally equally.

But you're predisposed to think of one as ridiculous and the other as pretty realistic. But that's your own biases at work, which are cool, but own them.
 
MindzEye said:
Nah, it's just shit that you find it more comfortable to suspend disbelief for.

For example, the hijack scene in TDKR is equally as physically impossible in the universe we all share as the God of Thunder appearing and shoving a lightning bolt up a frost giant's ass.

Literally equally.

But you're predisposed to think of one as ridiculous and the other as pretty realistic. But that's your own biases at work, which are cool, but own them.
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I think I read that they actually performed that stunt on the exterior of the planes in the air (the actors within the cabin obviously on a soundstage).
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I think I read that they actually performed that stunt on the exterior of the planes in the air (the actors within the cabin obviously on a soundstage).
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If you try to tow the dangling fuselage of one plane with another plane, they will both crash 1,000,000 out of 1,000,000 times.
 
Don't get me wrong, I love the Nolan trilogy but it requires suspended disbelief as well as most hollywood movies in general and all superhero movies do.

Once something becomes fucking impossible, there's no meaningful gradient beyond that for more impossible. Just a lack of imagination and/or comfort with finding the obviously ridiculous a break from reality.
 
MindzEye said:
Don't get me wrong, I love the Nolan trilogy but it requires suspended disbelief as well as most hollywood movies in general and all superhero movies do.

Once something becomes fucking impossible, there's no meaningful gradient beyond that for more impossible. Just a lack of imagination and/or comfort with finding the obviously ridiculous a break from reality.
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Eh, for entertainment/viewing purposes, there are levels of plausible to implausible impossibility.
 
Those are personal biases, which are entirely fine and I support people having them and watching what they enjoy. Just own them

The Batman trilogy is just as fantastic (in the sense that neither of them is remotely real or possibly real) as the average marvel movie. But yes, jumping off of buildings and not dying every time (because of a bat grapple that penetrade a few cm into brick....lol) is more realistic seeming than a juiced, unfrozen WW2 hero that can throw an aerodynamically impossible shield and never, ever miss.

Key word though is seemingly. Both are entirely impossible.
 
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