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I also started out with Roger Moore as my first Bond and loved it….made it much easier to go from that to Connery tho, since it was played so much more seriously.

for older folks who saw them linearly…..I could see being hugely turned off of the Moore flicks.
But then again, they really occupied the Bond space in two totally different eras. The Moore Bond flicks really were a product of its time, if we want to be fair about it.
 
I liked that they leaned into a bit of a grittier Bond. Connery was a departure (though a very fun and iconic departure) from the books character.

"I don't think that he is necessarily a good guy or a bad guy. Who is? He's got his vices and very few perceptible virtues except patriotism and courage, which are probably not virtues anyway ... But I didn't intend for him to be a particularly likeable person."

I'm entirely good with attempts at the character that aren't just trying to cosplay Connery's take or Moore's even further departure from the character as he was imagined by Flemming.
 
The only good thing about bond is the n64 video game

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I liked that they leaned into a bit of a grittier Bond. Connery was a departure (though a very fun and iconic departure) from the books character.



I'm entirely good with attempts at the character that aren't just trying to cosplay Connery's take or Moore's even further departure from the character as he was imagined by Flemming.
It's safe to say that Connery's Bond was the most "not even a little bit woke" Bond there ever was and God bless him for it.
 
I also started out with Roger Moore as my first Bond and loved it….made it much easier to go from that to Connery tho, since it was played so much more seriously.

for older folks who saw them linearly…..I could see being hugely turned off of the Moore flicks.
You can see why Moore took that approach to the character. There was no way he was going to look good trying to "copy" Connery. Though as been said, he tended to go too much the direction of "tongue in cheek" as the films went on imho.

A short lived TV series that Moore was the co-lead in not long before he got the James Bond role:



Curtis *sort of* was like the Craig version of Bond where Moore was the Moore version of Bond on that show I think heh.
 
the other thing is that with the Bournes and MIs i don't know if bond should be going with the tough action type guy at all anymore. it's kinda been done to death recently.

they should probably lean more into suave, brainy, and superspy skilled.
 
But then again, they really occupied the Bond space in two totally different eras. The Moore Bond flicks really were a product of its time, if we want to be fair about it.

yeah good point…I’m just guessing but did Adam West’s Batman overlap with it?
 
the other thing is that with the Bournes and MIs i don't know if bond should be going with the tough action type guy at all anymore. it's kinda been done to death recently.

they should probably lean more into suave, brainy, and superspy skilled.

They have said they’re doing a reinvention of the character or something to that effect….🤞🏼
 
they should probably lean more into suave, brainy, and superspy skilled.

I'm good with that, but in 2023 that character is going to need to be a bit more technologically proficient. That was part of the point of Craig's recent Bond turns, a dinosaur in a new age clinging to the old ways in the middle of breaking down physically at the attempt.

I'm good with a return to the slick, suave Bond, but it can't just be aping 1960's Connery with modern sensibilities about women and the blacks installed.
 
the other thing is that with the Bournes and MIs i don't know if bond should be going with the tough action type guy at all anymore. it's kinda been done to death recently.

they should probably lean more into suave, brainy, and superspy skilled.
He should just be Archer
 
saw this:

Some clues have been dropped though. In September 2022 Bond producer Michael G Wilson said at a BFI event celebrating 60 years since Bond made his debut in Dr No that they're looking for someone around the same age as Daniel Craig was when he became Bond. There will be no James Bond Jr reboot.

"We’ve tried looking at younger people in the past," Wilson said. "But trying to visualise it doesn’t work. Remember, Bond’s already a veteran. He’s had some experience. He’s a person who has been through the wars, so to speak. He’s probably been in the SAS or something."

so why don't you do a movie about how he was in the SAS or soemthing.
 
the other thing is that with the Bournes and MIs i don't know if bond should be going with the tough action type guy at all anymore. it's kinda been done to death recently.

they should probably lean more into suave, brainy, and superspy skilled.
The Bond franchise was somewhat ruined by the parody that was Auston Powers. It was hard to take Bond very seriously after all the tropes had been lampooned by Mike Myers.
 
I'm good with that, but in 2023 that character is going to need to be a bit more technologically proficient. That was part of the point of Craig's recent Bond turns, a dinosaur in a new age clinging to the old ways in the middle of breaking down physically at the attempt.

I'm good with a return to the slick, suave Bond, but it can't just be aping 1960's Connery with modern sensibilities about women and the blacks installed.
So Andrew Tate is out of the running then, and Ben Shapiro will have an entire episode of his podcast dedicated to the wokeness of James Bond.
 
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