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axlsalinger said:
god forbid anybody even tries to make a cerebral sci-fi movie or show rather than just 90 minutes of chase scenes and explosions
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Breaking Bad and Saul were plenty cerebral and did not rely on chase scenes or explosions. But they were rooted in reality. This just sounds to me like another X Files, which I also didn't watch even though it was often filmed just blocks away from where I was living at the time.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Breaking Bad and Saul were plenty cerebral and did not rely on chase scenes or explosions. But they were rooted in reality. This just sounds to me like another X Files, which I also didn't watch even though it was often filmed just blocks away from where I was living at the time.
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wait, you're saying a drama is more rooted in reality than science-fiction? Thanks for the brilliant deduction, Sherlock.
 
zeke said:
It's funny when people don't realize sci-fi explores more real human issues in much more depth than most "reality"-based storytelling does.
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Yeah, I’m not a sci-fi guy personally…..but OG & NG Star Trek’s often handled topics that it took the rest of television 20 years to catch up to.

now if someone wasn’t capable of picking up subtext…👀…..they may have trouble recognizing that.
 
Hell, Twilight Zone and Black Mirror made some of the most razor sharp social commentaries in television history, and both leaned pretty heavily on sci-fi to do so.

Regardless…..dismissing anything Gillian makes after following up BB with something as good as Better Call Saul, seems pretty foolish on its face.
 
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Yeah, it's absurd to dismiss any one genre because even if 75% of the material produced is schlock, there are always going to be gems worth watching (or reading, or listening to). And certainly, objectively, sci-fi has produced some of the greatest films and books ever made.

Of course, making grandiose statements dismissing large groups of people, films or any other large tent containing thousands of things not even remotely similar to one another is kind of WeHave's schtick.
 
Montana said:
Hell, Twilight Zone and Black Mirror made some of the most razor sharp social commentaries in television history, and both leaned pretty heavily on sci-fi to do so.

Regardless…..dismissing anything Gillian makes after following up BB with something as good as Better Call Saul, seems pretty foolish on its face.
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There's more lessons about modern humanity in The Expanse than there are in 99.9% of dramas.
 
Montana said:
Yeah, I’m not a sci-fi guy personally…..but OG & NG Star Trek’s often handled topics that it took the rest of television 20 years to catch up to.

now if someone wasn’t capable of picking up subtext…👀…..they may have trouble recognizing that.
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The OG Star Trek did do a good job of tackling the social issues of the 60's and because it was "science fiction" the show got away with more than it would have been allowed by network execs had it been set in the present day. It was the same with M*A*S*H. It was set in the Korean War but it was always really about Vietnam.
 
Sci-Fi at it's core is about examining what it means to be human and how we organize ourselves as a societies. Intrinsically philosophical. This distinguishes it from Fantasy which doesn't really deal with that kind of stuff and is more interested in grand mythical/religious type stories of good v evil and messiah heroes (which is why star wars is really fantasy wrapped in some scifi aesthetics).

there's plenty of shlocky scifi-ish stuff but the nature of the genre actually makes that kind of schlocky stuff rarer than it is in regular "real life' type story telling which is mostly pure superficial adventure/tragedy/mystery of the week type stuff.
 
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