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Claudia Cardinale, Italian Movie Star Who Appeared in ‘Pink Panther,’ ‘8 1/2,’ Dies at 87
Claudia Cardinale, Italian Movie Star Who Appeared in ‘Pink Panther,’ ‘8 1/2,’ Dies at 87
Claudia Cardinale, the sexy Italian movie star who appeared in classic Italian films including Fellini’s “8½” and Visconti’s “Rocco and His Brothers” and “The Leopard,” Sergio Leone’s spaghetti Wester...www.yahoo.com
To this day, 8 1/2 is one of my all time favourites, goddamn what a masterpiece.
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just want to confirm it’s Slow Horses, and that I’m not missing much by passing on Tulsa King?
axlsalinger
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It's an amazing film and all-time classic. Was just thinking about it a few weeks ago, haven't seen it for a very long time, and that needs to be rectified.
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MyNameIsJonas
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Yes, Tulsa King is popcorn TV that is fine, with Stallone mumbling his way through a Taylor Sheridan show, which at this point is kinda formulaic.
Its fine, even good to some degree, but good is the ceiling.
MyNameIsJonas
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Yeah.
I think Sheridan shows are fine, but one doesn't need to watch all of them. Yellowstone started interested then really peetered out into weird absurdity.
Mayor of Kingstown and Landman are probably his best two, even though the latter just kinda feels like a MAGA ad. Tulsa King is much lighter and campier, its again, fine, but unless you have a hardon for Stallone, and mafia trope shit. Its just fine.
oscarheyman
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That's how I became a Canucksfan growing up in Vancouver.
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LeafOfFaith
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Yellowstone was amazing and then turned to shit.
For some reason, I haven't had patience for his other shows, or maybe because of it, I guess. I tried Landman and just got totally bored by the second episode.
LeafOfFaith
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I think he's a talented guy, which shows when he had limited projects on his plate, like one or two at a time.
Now he's writing and executive producing what, like ten of these tv shows plus he's done some movies too. There's no way you can put out that kind of volume and have any chance of maintaining the original level of quality that got you there. I'm surprised he's still allowed to do as much as he does, but Paramount kind of lives off of his tv shit. So, as long as people are willing to watch low grade poop, I don't think Paramount will care much about the quality of it.
I really badly want to offer some inside info that I directly and personally have on how much money just one of these shows makes, but I can't.
Now he's writing and executive producing what, like ten of these tv shows plus he's done some movies too. There's no way you can put out that kind of volume and have any chance of maintaining the original level of quality that got you there. I'm surprised he's still allowed to do as much as he does, but Paramount kind of lives off of his tv shit. So, as long as people are willing to watch low grade poop, I don't think Paramount will care much about the quality of it.
I really badly want to offer some inside info that I directly and personally have on how much money just one of these shows makes, but I can't.
MyNameIsJonas
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All of his TV is kinda the same
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The thing is, virtually any long running TV is stripped of its artistic value just by virtue of being intentionally drawn out and bloated with filler to meet seasonal demands.
Sheridan wrote some good movies, but if you cared about artistic integrity you’d make mini-series for these streaming services that have a beginning, middle and end before any of it is shot.
It’s a trope now to call The Wire the best television show of all time, but for me the reason it still holds up and deserves to be held in higher regard than much more famous on going television, is that David Simon basically wrote a new novel each season and told that story, culminating to some degree by the finale, while continuing to interweave other elements from previous seasons, but each season can stand on its own.
Sheridan got into making television primarily for the payout….any interest in creating meaningful art, was gone.
Sheridan wrote some good movies, but if you cared about artistic integrity you’d make mini-series for these streaming services that have a beginning, middle and end before any of it is shot.
It’s a trope now to call The Wire the best television show of all time, but for me the reason it still holds up and deserves to be held in higher regard than much more famous on going television, is that David Simon basically wrote a new novel each season and told that story, culminating to some degree by the finale, while continuing to interweave other elements from previous seasons, but each season can stand on its own.
Sheridan got into making television primarily for the payout….any interest in creating meaningful art, was gone.
LeafOfFaith
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Yup - saw it. But strangely, I can't really remember it much at all. I'll rewatch if I come across it.
The story with Sheridan is that he was a failed actor who pivoted to writing and made a name for himself. The funny thing is, I don't think he's really given up on that acting dream because he finds ways to squeeze himself into the stuff he writes. Like, he inserted himself into the most absurdly irrelevant and inane B story on Yellowstone, and he's such a ridiculously unlikeable guy that it added to the unwatchability of later seasons. He tries to pull off this aura of shrewd fast-talking tough guy, and he's just such a poser that it's almost sad to watch. Within the industry, he's also a noted douche and hustler, and he's partnered up with a guy who was Harvey Weinstein's right hand man for many years, who is naturally a similar scumbag. You are the company you keep.