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OT: The News Thread

WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
I was raised to know the difference between what is within my control and what is outside my control. I was taught that I am responsible for all the stuff that is within my control. So my decision-making process in a given situation was subject to judgement from the outside and self-evaluation from the inside. I was held to a standard of behavior and so were most people I grew up with.

I also did 8 years in Catholic elementary school so being judgey is pretty much second nature.

Back in the 50's when my father was a teenager, he wanted to buy a leather jacket. My grandfather told him that wasn't a good idea because he would look like a hoodlum. My father said "But I'm not a hoodlum. You know that." to which my grandfather replied "You know you're not a hoodlum and I know you're not a hoodlum. But if you wear that jacket people who don't know you are going to take you for a hoodlum and treat you like one. So just because you know you aren't won't matter. You will be judged by how you look to others." My dad replied "But that isn't fair!" To which my grandfather simply said "What's fair doesn't matter. It's just how it is. Life isn't always fair."

When I was a teenager, a popular thing for kids to do was hang out at the mall. I, however, was not allowed to do this. I could go to the mall if I had a reason to be there, but not just to hang around. "People who hang around malls", my father explained, "are bored and will eventually either look for trouble or trouble will find them. I know you aren't the type of kid who looks for trouble so the best thing you can do for yourself is to not put yourself in a situation where trouble can find you."

The father of that girl in Sweden should have told her that the quickest way for her to find trouble was to volunteer to be some hockey player's piece of trim. She has now learned this the hard way.
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it is entirely within your control whether you continue posting about the things a VICTIM of sexual misfeasance should or should not have done in the encounter.

that you continue to harp and pile on a 19-year old continues to reflect poorly upon you.

but I'm not sure if you can or are willing to control yourself so here we are...
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
She didn't have to learn the hard way, but she needed to learn as we all do that actions and choices come with consequences attached, both intended and unintended. Of course we have no idea how this woman was raised. Maybe her parents tried to impart these lessons and she just didn't listen or maybe they never told her a damn thing and let her run wild. But even the best kids need to make their own mistakes and learn from them if they want to mature. After all, their parents aren't always going to be around to advise them.

Sooner or later life kicks us all in the teeth. It wasn't a case of her "having" to learn. She was going to learn one way or another eventually. And I wouldn't even say that she learned the hard way as if there's only one "hard" way. She learned a hard way but it could have been much harder. Just ask that woman in London who was gang raped by 8 junior hockey players. Compared to that, what this woman suffered was negligible but she should look at what happened to that woman in London and think about what might have potentially happened to herself. That's the lesson.

None of us escapes consequences forever. Sooner or later, life teaches us lessons whether we want them or not. But we need to take responsibility for our choices otherwise it becomes too easy to rationalize making the same poor choices in the future.
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Good post







Is probably what I wouldn't say if I actually read it
 
Wayward DP said:
it is entirely within your control whether you continue posting about the things a VICTIM of sexual misfeasance should or should not have done in the encounter.

that you continue to harp and pile on a 19-year old continues to reflect poorly upon you.

but I'm not sure if you can or are willing to control yourself so here we are...
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He can't control it the same as I can't control my visceral reactions to people like him.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
She didn't have to learn the hard way, but she needed to learn as we all do that actions and choices come with consequences attached, both intended and unintended. Of course we have no idea how this woman was raised. Maybe her parents tried to impart these lessons and she just didn't listen or maybe they never told her a damn thing and let her run wild. But even the best kids need to make their own mistakes and learn from them if they want to mature. After all, their parents aren't always going to be around to advise them.

Sooner or later life kicks us all in the teeth. It wasn't a case of her "having" to learn. She was going to learn one way or another eventually. And I wouldn't even say that she learned the hard way as if there's only one "hard" way. She learned a hard way but it could have been much harder. Just ask that woman in London who was gang raped by 8 junior hockey players. Compared to that, what this woman suffered was negligible but she should look at what happened to that woman in London and think about what might have potentially happened to herself. That's the lesson.

None of us escapes consequences forever. Sooner or later, life teaches us lessons whether we want them or not. But we need to take responsibility for our choices otherwise it becomes too easy to rationalize making the same poor choices in the future.
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don't you think she has learned this lesson by now though (this assumes that she did in fact need to learn)? what good does you repeating she needs to learn it do?
 
I don't usually advocate for bans, but I think someone needs to go back to the Habs board and irritate them instead. This guy has stepped over several lines.
 
Some people don't like the ignore feature...but to me, if a person's only reason to be here is to cause shit than ignoring is how you defeat that....trolls are basically bullies, and on the net you can't deal with bullies the way you do in life, so for me this is how I punch him in the face.

...I mean them
 
Bleedsblue&white said:
Some people don't like the ignore feature...but to me, if a person's only reason to be here is to cause shit than ignoring is how you defeat that....trolls are basically bullies, and on the net you can't deal with bullies the way you do in life, so for me this is how I punch him in the face.

...I mean them
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Yeah, think that’s probably the best way to deal with it.
 
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