OT: The News Thread

[JaysCyYoung]

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I know it shouldn't anymore, but it continually amazes me how often kb is unable to understand simple concepts. It's just truly mind-boggling.

 

[Volcanologist]

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Maybe a horse could rape some sense into him.

 

[johnunit]

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Maybe a horse could rape some sense into him.

like I said, if there's no death, the morality of horserape is based on motive.

 

[theREALkoreaboy]

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here's a very simple concept for you.

by putting drunk driving statistics in the same sentence as 9/11 statistics and then saying the drunk driving statistics are WORSE, you are cleary saying that you think drunk driving is a WORSE crime than 9/11 was, or at the very least, you are trying to minimize and trivialize the worst terrorist attack in history. THAT is a simple concept to understand, except for you people apparently.

please try to put your heads around the mindset of someone who:

A) ties one on at the local bar to have some fun with some pals, drinks too much, and with impaired judgement tries to get into his car thinking he's ok and he can make it and everything will be fine in the morning, OR

B) conspires for years with 19 other people to systematically train for and carry out an attack that is DESIGNED to kill thousands and thousands of people as violently as possible

once you do that, please try to tell me as a human being that the person in scenario A) is equal to or even WORSE than the person in scenario B). or how can you even try to suggest that column A) belongs anywhere near column B) in any discussion about what is worse.

 

[MindzEye]

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you are one sick, depraved puppy.

No, I'm really not. Though I know it makes you feel better to believe I am.

now you are trying to say that drunk driving is more objectionable than a vicious terrorist attack that purposely set out to kill as many thousands of people as possible??

as usual, you miss the point completely.

It's not a matter of the individual lack of morality involved in one drunk driving incident, or one act of terrorism. It's a simple matter of deciding which threat we should be mobilizing society to fight.

Drunk driving killed 17,000+ people in 2001 in the U.S alone...Islamic Terrorism killed 2,700. If what we're concerned about here is the value of human life, it's absolutely amoral to put your personal political beliefs ahead of stone cold statistics.

there's no other way to say it- you have no sense of morality whatsoever.

I value human life on a far, far greater level that you do. I don't pick and choose which people deserved to live and die. The ridiculous level of "god complex" inherent in your belief system is disgusting.

 

[MindzEye]

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here's a very simply concept for you.

by putting drunk driving statistics in the same sentence as 9/11 statistics and then saying the drunk driving statistics are WORSE, you are cleary saying that you think drunk driving is a WORSE crime than 9/11 was, or at the very least, you are trying to minimize and trivialize the worst terrorist attack in history. THAT is a simple concept to understand, except for you people apparently.

please try to put your heads around the mindset of someone who:

A) ties one on at the local bar to have some fun with some pals, drinks too much, and with impaired judgement tries to get into his car thinking he's ok and he can make it and everything will be fine in the morning, OR

B) conspires for years with 19 other people to systematically train for and carry out an attack that is DESIGNED to kill thousands and thousands of people as violently as possible

once you do that, please try to tell me as a human being that the person in scenario A) is equal to or even WORSE than the person in scenario B). or how can you even try to suggest that column A) belongs anywhere near column B) in any discussion about what is worse.

A lot of wasted key strokes when you simply could have quoted Artnes and said:

"I don't get it"

 

[MindzEye]

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Questions for KB:

1) Are people killed in a terrorist attack more dead, less dead, or equally as dead as people killed in drunk driving incidents?

2) Are people killed in a terrorist incident more important, less important, or equally important to people killed in drunk driving incidents?

 

[Volcanologist]

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That probably depends on whether those people are right-wing nutjobs.

Er, sorry, "politically reliable".

That might be my all-time favourite Baggyism, actually.

 

[theREALkoreaboy]

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as usual, you miss the point completely.

It's not a matter of the individual lack of morality involved in one drunk driving incident, or one act of terrorism. It's a simple matter of deciding which threat we should be mobilizing society to fight.

no, as usual, YOU are missing the point completely. you are forgetting that society HAS ALREADY mobilized to fight drunk driving. how many PSA's have you seen or heard trying to stop drunk driving? how many organizations are dedicated to stopping drunk driving? how many police officers are on the road to try to stop drunk driving? how many RIDE programs have you driven through in your life to stop drunk driving? how much money are we spending every single year to prosecute and incarcerate drunk drivers? you ignore that completely to try to score a stupid, immoral, partisan political point by creating moral equivalency between drunk driving and 9/11.

you are trying to equate drunk driving to 9/11 to minimize the impact of 9/11 and to de-emphasize the need to continue to address the problems that led to 9/11- or WORSE- that will lead to the next 9/11 if idiots like you carry the argument that we shouldn't be worrying about the problem or continuing to confront it everywhere aggressively.

 

[Factinista]

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It feels like a horse is raping my head when you talk.

 

[theREALkoreaboy]

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Questions for KB:

1) Are people killed in a terrorist attack more dead, less dead, or equally as dead as people killed in drunk driving incidents?

2) Are people killed in a terrorist incident more important, less important, or equally important to people killed in drunk driving incidents?

relativist crap. this isn't about body counts and you know it. see my post above to understand why. and you know what? all it will take is for ONE group of jihadi scumbags to get a nuke into a major american city for the terrorist body count to dwarf the drunk driving body count. and i bet that idiots like you will STILL be trying to minimize the problem and blame our own society and "right wing nuts" like me for causing it to happen.

 

[theREALkoreaboy]

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It feels like a horse is raping my head when you talk.

when he's finished, that horse would probably leave more of value in your head than is there now!

 

[Artnes]

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A lot of wasted key strokes when you simply could have quoted Artnes and said:

"I don't get it"

 

[MindzEye]

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no, as usual, YOU are missing the point completely. you are forgetting that society HAS ALREADY mobilized to fight drunk driving. how many PSA's have you seen or heard trying to stop drunk driving? how many organizations are dedicated to stopping drunk driving? how many police officers are on the road to try to stop drunk driving? how many RIDE programs have you driven through in your life to stop drunk driving? how much money are we spending every single year to prosecute and incarcerate drunk drivers? you ignore that completely to try to score a stupid, immoral, partisan political point by creating moral equivalency between drunk driving and 9/11.

you are trying to equate drunk driving to 9/11 to minimize the impact of 9/11 and to de-emphasize the need to continue to address the problems that led to 9/11- or WORSE- that will lead to the next 9/11 if idiots like you carry the argument that we shouldn't be worrying about the problem or continuing to confront it everywhere aggressively.

I bet you we haven't spent as much fighting drunk driving since 9/11 as we have fighting foreign wars to "fight the terrorists over there"

I'm not trying to minimize the impact of 9/11 at all...I'm trying to contextualize it. Simple fact is that 6 times as many people were killed that year in the U.S alone in drunk driving incidents. If you feel threatened by the truth, then in all likelihood you're blowing 9/11 out of proportion to suit your own personal politics.

 

[theREALkoreaboy]

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"my own personal politics" is to do everything possible to destroy fanatical scumbags who want to kill thousands or even millions of people at a time in terrorist attacks.

"my own personal politics" is to support the leaders and the soldiers who are trying to protect us from that.

"my own personal politics" is to oppose smug, self-satisfied, pampered, and narcissistic ninnies like yourself who want to do everything they can to prevent steps from being taken to protect us from that.

 

[MindzEye]

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relativist crap. this isn't about body counts and you know it.

Which is your way of saying that those killed by terror attacks are worth more than those killed in drunk driving incidents....because it suits your personal politics.

Congrats, you're a scumbag.

see my post above to understand why. and you know what? all it will take is for ONE group of jihadi scumbags to get a nuke into a major american city for the terrorist body count to dwarf the drunk driving body count. and i bet that idiots like you will STILL be trying to minimize the problem and blame our own society and "right wing nuts" like me for causing it to happen.

And if we as a society would take the proper precautions to Islamic (or any ethnic brand of) terror, and properly secure our ports, airlines, etc, etc, etc instead of wasting financial resources on fighting misguided foreign wars, there would be a far, far smaller chance of even that extremely remote possibility to brought up occurring.

You don't seem to get my politics at all, or more accurately, you continually attempt to pigeon hole them into a predetermined position of your creation so that you can stare down your nose and me and declare yourself morally superior. I'm all for properly thought out and implemented precautions to protect our society. Secure our international travel and shipping access points properly. Develop and implement the technology necessary to keep us as safe as liberty allows from acts of extreme violence....but let's not use fear to blow shit entirely out of proportion because it suits foreign policy goals.

Simple fact is that if we value life 1:1 that terrorism is incredibly far down the list of priorities...however, it is an honest argument to assert that there is the potential for significant future acts of terrorism (even the remote potential, in the case of nuclear terrorism, as you suggested) and that a somewhat disproportionate allocation of resources should be directed towards anti terrorism measures. But it absolutely should not be our top priority as a society as measured by dollars input.

 

[MindzEye]

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"my own personal politics" is to do everything possible to destroy fanatical scumbags who want to kill thousands or even millions of people at a time in terrorist attacks.

And the problem is that you miss the forest for the sake of the trees. Terrorism is one of many problems we face as a society, but is not the pre eminent problem at all.

"my own personal politics" is to support the leaders and the soldiers who are trying to protect us from that.

To what ends, and through what means?

"my own personal politics" is to oppose smug, self-satisfied, pampered, and narcissistic ninnies like yourself who want to do everything they can to prevent steps from being taken to protect us from that.

You are possibly the most intellectually dishonest person I've ever come across in my life.

 

[MindzEye]

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...de-is-bearded-and-cross-eyed-behind-veil.html

The envoy had only met the woman a few times, during which she had hidden her face behind a niqab, the Gulf News reported.

After the marriage contract was signed, the ambassador attempted to kiss his bride-to-be. It was only then that he discovered her facial hair and eyes.

The ambassador told an Islamic Sharia court in the United Arab Emirates he was tricked into the marriage as the woman's mother had shown his own mother pictures of her sister instead of his bride-to-be.

He sued for the contract to be annulled and also demanded the woman pay him 500,000 dirhams (£85,000) for clothes, jewelry and other gifts he had bought for her.

The court annulled the contract but rejected the ambassador's demand for compensation.

The report did not identify the ambassador.

 

[MindzEye]

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http://minnesotaindependent.com/55061/bachmann-america-cursed-by-god-if-we-reject-israel

At a Republican Jewish Coalition event in Los Angeles last week, Rep. Michele Bachmann offered a candid view of her positions on Israel: Support for Israel is handed down by God and if the United States pulls back its support, America will cease to exist.

I am convinced in my heart and in my mind that if the United States fails to stand with Israel, that is the end of the United States . . . [W]e have to show that we are inextricably entwined, that as a nation we have been blessed because of our relationship with Israel, and if we reject Israel, then there is a curse that comes into play. And my husband and I are both Christians, and we believe very strongly the verse from Genesis [Genesis 12:3], we believe very strongly that nations also receive blessings as they bless Israel. It is a strong and beautiful principle.

 

[axlsalinger]

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I know it shouldn't anymore, but it continually amazes me how often kb is unable to understand simple concepts. It's just truly mind-boggling.

It truly is amazing. I'd suggest he spend more time trying to understand said concepts, but there is evidence to suggest that it wouldn't work even if he spent 6 years trying.