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OT: The News Thread

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North Korea is a weird situation....sure you can bomb the shit out of everything...but then what?

They've been in complete control for so long that there is probably a strong chance of heavy resistance from a heavily brainwashed civilian population. Then of course there is the matter of their massive infantry and artillery forces.

There's a reason that everyone has handled the North Korean's with kid gloves for last few decades, it's a shit storm nobody really wants to see, especially not before policy experts get a handle for exactly who Kim Jong-Un is. Our favourite Team America puppet is in all likelihood on the way out within the next few years due to failing health, and his youngest son might not be as loony to deal with as his father has been.
 
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I thought the only reason nobody ****ed with Kim was because the chinks and japs didn't want anyone playing in their backyard.
 
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I've read of few quotes from their former head chef and he has said that Kim Jung-Un seems to be more compassionate towards the common people of NK. I can;t remember the exact quote but it was something along the lines of him say we have all these nice things but what about the common people of NK?

Maybe there is some hope for the guy yet
 
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13,000 artillery pieces aimed at Seoul with the range to reach it are probably the single biggest reason.

Japan would much prefer a more stable government in North Korea and would have approved of (at least quietly) the removal of the Kim family dynasty previously if it was easily done.

China is another matter, but frankly, they didn't have even what I would consider "regional power" status until the late 90's. They were more of a "power pivot" in geo politics terms imo up until that point. If the U.S really had wanted to get serious with NKorea in the 90's, China would have objected publicly, but wouldn't have done much other than do their best to make sure the U.S had as much trouble as possible while dealing with Korea.

The real issue has been with South Korea. For obvious reasons they don't want 13,000 artillery pieces raining shells down on their capitol city, and politically, re unification has been the rage for most of the last 10-15 years. South Korean politicians have had to handle NKorea delicately because the population wants peace and re unification, not war with NKorea.
 
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I've read of few quotes from their former head chef and he has said that Kim Jung-Un seems to be more compassionate towards the common people of NK. I can;t remember the exact quote but it was something along the lines of him say we have all these nice things but what about the common people of NK?

Maybe there is some hope for the guy yet

Yeah, I've read the same. I've also read some good things said about him by classmates at a school in Bern that it's alleged that he attended for 5 years. Basically that he was one of the guys, palled around with a South Korean, loved basketball and was taught to play by an Israeli classmate, etc.

He's the hand picked successor of Jong-Il though, despite being the youngest of the children of Jong-Il. The same sushi chef also remarked that Jong-Un was "almost identical to his father", though that just might be what passes for flattery in North Korea and not an actual statement on his character.

The major point of concern with succession though is that Jong-Un may not have a strong enough grip on the government & military by the time Jong-Il kicks it to be able to truly take over for some time. The military has pledged to Jong-Il that it will stay true to the Kim family bloodline, but there are concerns in foreign policy circles that senior government and military officials may treat Jong-Un like a powerless figurehead (especially with the oldest brother Jong-Nam apparently a little choked that he's being passed over when he was slated as the successor for many years, potentially being there to claim the "throne" if Jong-Un is "removed" for whatever reason).

It's a ****ed up situation politically, and one that has to be reassessed after the succession picture becomes clear after Jong-Il's death.
 
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More drivel from the moron:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2010/03/25/calgary-coulter-speech-university-.html

Controversial U.S. political commentator Ann Coulter said she's determined to "save the good Canadians" in Calgary and regions west from "crazy liberals," a day after she was met by protests in Ottawa.

"It's quite a country you have here," Coulter told Evan Solomon, host of Power & Politics, on CBC News Network on Thursday. "I'm more determined than ever to turn pretty much from Calgary through the west into the 51st state now. We got to save the good Canadians."

"Save us from what, Ann?" Solomon asked.

"From the crazy liberals. From the crybabies," Coulter answered, sporting sunglasses. "How did Canada go from being the country that sends us all our best comedians to a bunch of whining, crying babies that can't take a joke?"

Coulter said she intends to file a complaint with the Canadian Human Rights Commission over an email sent to her by University of Ottawa provost François Houle, reminding her about Canada's hate laws.

In an online column, Coulter claims Houle is guilty of hate speech because his missive sparked the demonstration that led to her speech being cancelled.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/st...coulter-speech-university-.html#ixzz0jLHQB7jN

"I have discovered that Canada's approach to free speech, and that is speech they like," Coulter said Thursday. "It's not free speech if they are going to say, 'Yes, you can have free speech as long as you don't say X, Y, Z.'"

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/st...coulter-speech-university-.html#ixzz0jLHVRvGe
 
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Well... she's right. You can't pick and choose just because you disagree with someone. Quite frankly, if I had the choice I'd ensure that the NDP was destroyed as a political party and Michael Ignatieff was sent back to Harvard, but they have a right to express themselves.
 
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The military has pledged to Jong-Il that it will stay true to the Kim family bloodline, but there are concerns in foreign policy circles that senior government and military officials may treat Jong-Un like a powerless figurehead (especially with the oldest brother Jong-Nam apparently a little choked that he's being passed over when he was slated as the successor for many years, potentially being there to claim the "throne" if Jong-Un is "removed" for whatever reason).

So we may change his name to Kim "dubya" Un
 
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Well... she's right. You can't pick and choose just because you disagree with someone. Quite frankly, if I had the choice I'd ensure that the NDP was destroyed as a political party and Michael Ignatieff was sent back to Harvard, but they have a right to express themselves.

I'm not a fan of hate speech laws, but it's hardly an unreasonable line to draw for a civil society. Their are obvious limits to free speech that have always been recognized as such. The two most discussed are the "Can't yell fire in a crowded theatre" example, and the "your right to free speech ends at the tip of my nose" example.

Hate speech would fall under the purview of the latter, inciting hatred is welcoming free speech to make direct contact with my nose.

There are obviously endless arguments necessary to determine what is and isn't hate speech, which is really what makes it such a potentially dangerous exercise in the first place. But you're not "picking and choosing" what is free speech and what isn't by outlawing hate speech, you're simply being a little oversensitive concerning one of the natural limits to free speech.

Like I said, I disagree with it, but I understand why some deem it necessary and it's function as a natural extension of an already accepted limit on free speech.
 
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So we may change his name to Kim "dubya" Un

More or less, yeah. Though I don't know how long the entrenched hardliners would be able to keep the reigns of power away from him. He's only 26 I think, so it could be for some years.
 
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Well... she's right. You can't pick and choose just because you disagree with someone. Quite frankly, if I had the choice I'd ensure that the NDP was destroyed as a political party and Michael Ignatieff was sent back to Harvard, but they have a right to express themselves.

As well, I guarantee that I can name numerous examples of free speech that she's against, that are considered criminal in the U.S

Planning a crime or terrorist incident verbally are crimes in the U.S, as is uttering threats. There are numerous things that can be said to police officers that will land you a "resisting arrest" charge that will lead to a conviction.

Is that not also "picking and choosing" what is and isn't free speech? All she's doing is throwing a pundits version of a tantrum that her act isn't tolerated under Canadian law. She fully supports limits to free speech, just not the limits that leave her vulnerable to prosecution in Canada for her blatant racism.
 
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As an aside, I'm going to personally bitch-slap several executive members of the AMS the next time I'm in Kingston for embarrassing the school publicly yet again over nothing (and I actually do know several of these idiots):

Sumo suits, the plastic novelties that can transform a skinny sports fan into a comically unstable sphere for the delight of a stadium audience, are racist and dehumanizing instruments of oppression, according to the student government of Queen's University.

They "appropriate an aspect of Japanese culture," turn a racial identity into a "costume," and "devalue an ancient and respected Japanese sport, which is rich in history and cultural tradition." They also "fail to capture the deeply embedded histories of violent and subversive oppression that a group has faced."

The Alma Mater Society on Monday published a two-page apology letter, and cancelled a foodbank fundraiser scheduled for Tuesday, which was to feature two sumo suits. The letter scolds the student government's own executive for "marginalizing members of the Queen's community" and failing to "critically consider the racist meaning behind [the fundraiser.]"

It also vows to discourage other campus groups from using the suits, owned by the school's athletic department.

"We recognize racism as the systemic oppression, both intentional and unintentional, of individuals and groups based on racial or ethnic identities," the letter reads.

Given the quick apology, which came in response to complaints registered on a Facebook page promoting the event, the racism of the Queen's "SUMO Showdown" seems to have been unintentional, and not an effort to belittle Japanese people.

Brandon Sloan, communications officer for the Alma Mater Society, suggested "white privilege" had blinded the student government, which is largely but not entirely white, to the seriousness of the issue.

Likewise, the owners of the two suits have never imagined they could be considered offensive.

"It's the first time we've heard of [the racist aspects]," Mike Grobe, a spokesman for Queen's Athletics, which uses the suits at football and basketball games for half-time shows, when people run obstacle courses in them. "They're just big puffy suits. They're pink... No one's complained."

They come with a helmet shaped like a head with a bun of hair, like a sumo wrestler, but nothing overtly stereotypical. They are new this academic year, and are often loaned out to student groups. They were even loaned out to the Ontario Hockey League for its all-star hockey game.

In the past, professional sumo wrestling in Japan itself has been accused of racism for excluding foreign-born wrestlers, although non-Japanese wrestlers have had notable successes, even rising to highest rank of Yokozuna.

For its part, Queen's has a proud tradition of inclusivity. It was the first school in Canada to graduate a black man, Robert Sutherland, who became a prominent lawyer. Its student pub, Alfie's, is named for the son of a runaway slave who became a football mascot. And it continues to receive generous donations of art and real estate from chemist-turned-philanthropist Alfred Bader, a refugee from the Nazis who was turned away from McGill because its Jewish quota was filled.

But Queen's today has an awkward relationship with political correctness, exacerbated by its reputation for drawing its student body from the privileged neighbourhoods of Toronto and Ottawa.

In a report last week on racism in Ontario universities by the Canadian Federation of Students, one Queen's student reported that "white privilege" permeates the "walls, books, classrooms and everything that makes Queen's what it is."

That aspect of the controversy is mentioned in the apology letter, which says "some of us [AMS leaders] ... do not have the lived experience of someone who is oppressed due to their race. We recognize our privilege in this circumstance." It then vows "a series of discussions" about oppression.

"We would never want to host an event that would offend some members," Mr. Sloan said.

Last year, in a story that made national headlines, the Queen's administration appointed six "dialogue facilitators" to promote discussion of social justice, partly by intervening in conversations when they overhear offensive speech. The resulting scandal led to the appointment of an expert panel, including a former head of the Ontario Human Rights Commission, which cancelled the program as "incompatible with the atmosphere required for free speech."

The student government was to meet last night to discuss another fun activity as a replacement for the sumo suits, Mr. Sloan said.

Also on Monday, the nomination period closed for the government's Anti-Oppression Award, given for exceptional achievement in counteracting oppression both in and out of the classroom.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2740807

If I see Brandon at Steph's birthday party again this summer, I'm full on bitch-slapping him as hard as Irish hit her then-boyfriend last year (which was hilarious).
 
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I don't know how you could joke about oppressing the japanese so brutally!


They don't put on inflatable mountie suits and ride big dogs at halftime shows, we should give them the same respect!
 
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I find this very offensive because they are promoting pedophilia..

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Its just someone looking for something to bitch and moan about. Its just people having fun in a fat suit.
 
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It's just ludicrous that they could have even formulated the connection. Some of the most progressive, socially-conscious people I know (development studies and women's studies majors) have been ripping the AMS over this sort of shit. It's hyper-sensitivity on a grand-scale and all it does is alienate the student body from the grand-standing student government on an even greater level.
 
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it's just a bunch of 21 year olds looking to pad their resumes with something "groundbreaking" or by being a "maverick".


Does that letter even have any power? It sounds like the athletic association doesn't even have to bother responding.
 
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I really love James Lovelock, the guy has a pretty good outlook on climate.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/mar/29/james-lovelock-climate-change

James Lovelock: Humans are too stupid to prevent climate change

In his first in-depth interview since the theft of UEA emails, the scientist blames inertia and democracy for lack of action


James Lovelock

Humans are too stupid to prevent climate change, according to the British scientist James Lovelock. Illustration: Murdo Macleod

Humans are too stupid to prevent climate change from radically impacting on our lives over the coming decades. This is the stark conclusion of James Lovelock, the globally respected environmental thinker and independent scientist who developed the Gaia theory.

It follows a tumultuous few months in which public opinion on efforts to tackle climate change has been undermined by events such as the climate scientists' emails leaked from the University of East Anglia (UEA) and the failure of the Copenhagen climate summit.

"I don't think we're yet evolved to the point where we're clever enough to handle a complex a situation as climate change," said Lovelock in his first in-depth interview since the theft of the UEA emails last November. "The inertia of humans is so huge that you can't really do anything meaningful."

One of the main obstructions to meaningful action is "modern democracy", he added. "Even the best democracies agree that when a major war approaches, democracy must be put on hold for the time being. I have a feeling that climate change may be an issue as severe as a war. It may be necessary to put democracy on hold for a while."

Lovelock, 90, believes the world's best hope is to invest in adaptation measures, such as building sea defences around the cities that are most vulnerable to sea-level rises. He thinks only a catastrophic event would now persuade humanity to take the threat of climate change seriously enough, such as the collapse of a giant glacier in Antarctica, such as the Pine Island glacier, which would immediately push up sea level.

"That would be the sort of event that would change public opinion," he said. "Or a return of the dust bowl in the mid-west. Another Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report won't be enough. We'll just argue over it like now." The IPCC's 2007 report concluded that there was a 90% chance that greenhouse gas emissions from human activities are causing global warming, but the panel has been criticised over a mistaken claim that all Himalayan glaciers could melt by 2030.

Lovelock says the events of the recent months have seen him warming to the efforts of the "good" climate sceptics: "What I like about sceptics is that in good science you need critics that make you think: 'Crumbs, have I made a mistake here?' If you don't have that continuously, you really are up the creek. The good sceptics have done a good service, but some of the mad ones I think have not done anyone any favours. You need sceptics, especially when the science gets very big and monolithic."

Lovelock, who 40 years ago originated the idea that the planet is a giant, self-regulating organism – the so-called Gaia theory – added that he has little sympathy for the climate scientists caught up in the UEA email scandal. He said he had not read the original emails – "I felt reluctant to pry" – but that their reported content had left him feeling "utterly disgusted".

"Fudging the data in any way whatsoever is quite literally a sin against the holy ghost of science," he said. "I'm not religious, but I put it that way because I feel so strongly. It's the one thing you do not ever do. You've got to have standards."

Notice how he says "...from radically impacting..." I like how he just ignores the blame game and focuses on the repercussions that get lost in the maylay.
 
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