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OT: The News Thread

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And the crux of the law is right. If you want to use your residency/citizenship as a ticket to public services, you have to be prepared to show some proof that you are who you say you are. The generally accepted (and easiest) way to do that is facial identification. It's ridiculous that someone should have to set up a screen or leave their post to go to a back room or call over a female colleague to accomplish that because of some arbitrary religious rule.

The theoretical goal of a niqab is to prevent men from lusting after you based on your facial features. If you give some dude at the MTO a glimpse of your face to compare to your driver's license, is that REALLY compromising that so much?
 
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I think it's disgusting, myself.

If both sexes were wearing them, that would make some moral sense.

But making women cover themselves up is utterly demeaning.
 
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Cant teeds just invent something that instantly verifies who you are based on some DNA scan.
 
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He did, 20 years ago. Problem is, it also identified the lizard people, so it was snatched up by The Man and is currently stored in the back of a large warehouse in Washington, D.C.
 
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I think it's disgusting, myself.

If both sexes were wearing them, that would make some moral sense.

But making women cover themselves up is utterly demeaning.

admit it -- you just wanna see what's beneath the veil.

i flew from amsterdam to toronto, and the girl sitting in front of me was wearing a full veil.. but took it off during the flight. not, interestingly, while she was going through security, but as soon as we boarded the plane it came off.

and fwiw, she was drop dead gorgeous.
 
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I don't really get why women should have to take off a veil to attend university classes if they don't want to.
 
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yeah university classes are a bit weird. Maybe to use campus services, but to just sit in on a lecture that a random person could walk in off the street and sit in on?I don't see the need for uncovering there.
 
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If womens rights groups really cared they'd be the ones making a stink about it.

Oddly, they are silent.
 
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If womens rights groups really cared they'd be the ones making a stink about it.

Oddly, they are silent.

I think part of that is diffused by the women who are very vocal about it being their choice to wear a niqab. I don't buy it, it's at the very least a product of low-level brainwashing, but it's hard to argue with 'no, this IS my choice as a woman' from a feminist viewpoint.


FWIW, the Womens Affairs or whatever minister was quoted as being for the bill on the previous page.
 
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They don't actually believe that. They've been brain-washed and pressured from cultural groups within their community since birth into thinking that it's a choice when really it couldn't be farther from the truth. Look at that poor Muslim girl in Mississauga that was brutally murdered by her father (or uncle, can't recall) because she wasn't "chaste" enough in the eyes of the men of her family. It's absolutely antithetical to women's rights and it has no place in Canada. This isn't ****ing Riyadh.
 
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They don't actually believe that. They've been brain-washed and pressured from cultural groups within their community since birth into thinking that it's a choice when really it couldn't be farther from the truth. Look at that poor Muslim girl in Mississauga that was brutally murdered by her father (or uncle, can't recall) because she wasn't "chaste" enough in the eyes of the men of her family. It's absolutely antithetical to women's rights and it has no place in Canada. This isn't ****ing Riyadh.

I don't have a very positive view of organized religion in most cases but it seems to me that if you think people are being oppressed, probably not a good idea to deny them a chance to be educated.
 
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Good for Quebec. Religious tolerance is good and all, but you can't accomodate everybody. There are some tenets in some religions that just are totally incompatible with western society. Having to have your face completely covered at all times is definitely one such example as this. The Sikh requirement to carry a dagger everywhere and the fundamentalist Mormon/Muslim belief in Polygamy and child brides are another couple of examples that come to mind.
 
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If you can't adjust to Western culture go the **** back to where you came from and practice there.

You can't even celebrate Christmas/Hanukkah in schools anymore because it may offend someone who is a non believer. That makes sick
 
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I don't speak french, but if that link is indeed showing womens groups supporting the government than it's a) a first, and b) great news.
 
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So, South Korean ship goes down near North Korean water, 40 sailors possibly dead, rumours of a torpedo attack.....shit.


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9EMECM00&show_article=1


AP:
SKorean navy ship sinks in waters near NKorea
Mar 26 12:52 PM US/Eastern
By KWANG-TAE KIM
Associated Press Writer

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - Military officials say a South Korean navy ship has sunk off an island not far from North Korea.

An official with the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Seoul said early Saturday that the ship sank some four hours after it began taking on water. The official spoke on condition of anonymity, in line with department policy.

The official said at least 58 of the 104 crew members have been rescued. There was no immediate confirmation of casualties. A rescue operation was still under way.

The cause of the sinking was not immediately clear.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

SEOUL, South Korea (AP)—South Korea's military scrambled naval vessels to the western waters near the disputed maritime border with rival North Korea late Friday after an explosion ripped a hole in the bottom of a military ship, officials and news reports said.

The ship, on a routine patrolling mission with 104 crew members on board, began sinking off the coast of South Korean-controlled Baengnyeong Island close to North Korea around 9:45 p.m. (1245 GMT, 9:45 a.m. EDT), an official at the Joint Chiefs of Staff said, speaking on condition of anonymity in line with department policy.

South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported an explosion in the rear of the 1,200-ton ship and said the military had not ruled out the possibility of an attack by North Korea. However, the military official said the exact cause was not immediately clear and said he could not confirm the Yonhap report.

A rescue mission was under way and the military moved to strengthen its vigilance near the maritime border, the site of three bloody naval clashes in the past between the warring Koreas. The divided peninsula remains in a state of war because the three-year Korean conflict ended in a truce, not a peace treaty, in 1953.

Earlier Friday, North Korea's military threatened "unpredictable strikes," including a nuclear attack, in anger over a report that South Korea and the U.S. were preparing for possible instability in the totalitarian country.

After the ship began sinking, President Lee Myung-bak convened an emergency meeting of security-related ministers, Yonhap said, citing presidential spokeswoman Kim Eun-hye. She said it wasn't clear yet whether North Korea was involved in the ship's demise.

Six naval ships and two coast guard vessels were rushed to the waters to save the crew, Yonhap said. Rescue helicopters and ambulances also sped to the scene, the military official said. By 12:30 a.m. Saturday (1430 GMT, 10:30 a.m. EDT Friday), with the ship nearly submerged, 58 of the soldiers had been rescued, the official said. There were no immediate confirmation of any casualties.

Yonhap reported earlier that a South Korean ship fired shots toward an unidentified target in the direction of North Korea. The military official confirmed that shots were fired but said the object detected by radar may have been a flock of birds.

Baeknyeong Island, four hours' by boat from the port of Incheon, is the westernmost point of South Korea and is a key military post for South Korea because of its proximity to the North.
 
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Just bomb the shit out of Jong-Il already. He doesn't have any nukes.

Just get him out of there.
 
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