worm
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Or like calling someone a fag for dancing with your girlfriend.
Or like calling someone a fag for dancing with your girlfriend.
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axlsalinger
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I'm trying to figure out if this is a joke, a parody, or a delusion. Or something else entirely.
:shrug
I'm trying to figure out if this is a joke, a parody, or a delusion. Or something else entirely.
Blackheart
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One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist, right?:thumbsup(22):
One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist, right?:thumbsup(22):
axlsalinger
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MindzEye
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Comments like "All terrorists are Muslim", "make them ride magic carpets"...and when challenged on that comment by a student saying she didn't have one, retorting "then ride a camel" is severe racism and by definition, hate speech.
I personally think hate speech laws are horse shit and that the "line" for what is considered free speech should be beyond that (count me in the camp that believes your freedom of speech ends at the tip of my nose....or the "you can't yell fire in a theatre" camp)...but currently in Canada "hate" speech is illegal.
However, this shouldn't cause Coulter's right to speak to be revoked (as in this case, they were...by the modern equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theatre...a fire alarm being pulled, which is a crime in of itself.) It should though, have opened her up to criminal charges (or whatever ****ing redress the law has concerning hate speech....a human rights panel, gulag, death camp, stern talking to...whatever) had she broken Canadian law, and those who protested were well within their rights as long as they weren't breaking any other laws (trespassing on private property, vandalism, uttering threats, etc)....it's the morons who pulled the fire alarm that irk me here.
Coulter is a moron and I have no desire to hear anything that comes from her manly voice box. She's gone well past the point of deserving to have her views taken seriously by anyone concerned with living within a healthy, functioning civilization. But the idiots who pulled the fire alarms, or uttered threats or otherwise went past the boundaries of civil protest have done nothing but given her proponents ammunition.
Comments like "All terrorists are Muslim", "make them ride magic carpets"...and when challenged on that comment by a student saying she didn't have one, retorting "then ride a camel" is severe racism and by definition, hate speech.
I personally think hate speech laws are horse shit and that the "line" for what is considered free speech should be beyond that (count me in the camp that believes your freedom of speech ends at the tip of my nose....or the "you can't yell fire in a theatre" camp)...but currently in Canada "hate" speech is illegal.
However, this shouldn't cause Coulter's right to speak to be revoked (as in this case, they were...by the modern equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theatre...a fire alarm being pulled, which is a crime in of itself.) It should though, have opened her up to criminal charges (or whatever ****ing redress the law has concerning hate speech....a human rights panel, gulag, death camp, stern talking to...whatever) had she broken Canadian law, and those who protested were well within their rights as long as they weren't breaking any other laws (trespassing on private property, vandalism, uttering threats, etc)....it's the morons who pulled the fire alarm that irk me here.
Coulter is a moron and I have no desire to hear anything that comes from her manly voice box. She's gone well past the point of deserving to have her views taken seriously by anyone concerned with living within a healthy, functioning civilization. But the idiots who pulled the fire alarms, or uttered threats or otherwise went past the boundaries of civil protest have done nothing but given her proponents ammunition.
corksens
Legend
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Why would anyone subject themselves to an angry mob and false fire alarms? That issue could have easily fallen out of control...and who knows what would have happened.
Even you know this isn't the case.
Why would anyone subject themselves to an angry mob and false fire alarms? That issue could have easily fallen out of control...and who knows what would have happened.
MindzEye
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I think that's a little harsh...The way I look at the letter from the Provost was as a necessary warning. Simple fact is that some of what she says in the U.S media would in fact be considered a crime in Canada, and ignorance of the law isn't an excuse. A controversial public speaker such as herself should be made aware of what can and cannot be said before she speaks here, if for no other reason than you protect her from herself.
I think that's a little harsh...The way I look at the letter from the Provost was as a necessary warning. Simple fact is that some of what she says in the U.S media would in fact be considered a crime in Canada, and ignorance of the law isn't an excuse. A controversial public speaker such as herself should be made aware of what can and cannot be said before she speaks here, if for no other reason than you protect her from herself.
MindzEye
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Some interesting stuff going on with Wikileaks right now..."interesting" as in being detained by U.S officials and being under surveillance due to records they're releasing on April 5th.
For those of you unfamiliar with Wikileaks, they're basically where the deepest, darkest secrets of governments, corporations, NGO's, etc see the light of day. They should be applauded by people of all political stripes, they do a fantastic job.
well...on to the interesting part...
http://morgue.isprettyawesome.com/?p=1361
Here's their twitter feed for those of you who would like to stay tuned
http://twitter.com/wikileaks
Some interesting stuff going on with Wikileaks right now..."interesting" as in being detained by U.S officials and being under surveillance due to records they're releasing on April 5th.
For those of you unfamiliar with Wikileaks, they're basically where the deepest, darkest secrets of governments, corporations, NGO's, etc see the light of day. They should be applauded by people of all political stripes, they do a fantastic job.
well...on to the interesting part...
http://morgue.isprettyawesome.com/?p=1361
Here's their twitter feed for those of you who would like to stay tuned
http://twitter.com/wikileaks
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
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Fair enough, but it's still a prudent warning considering her track record.
Fair enough, but it's still a prudent warning considering her track record.
Volcanologist
Well-known member
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Why is it that most of the people who seem to pull the free speech card are total *******s?
Why is it that most of the people who seem to pull the free speech card are total *******s?
zeke
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false fire alarms? oh the humanity.
the democratic congressmen subjected themselves to angry mobs to get this health care done.
If she wants to provoke the masses with inflammatory speech, she can't run away crying when she receives flak back.
false fire alarms? oh the humanity.
the democratic congressmen subjected themselves to angry mobs to get this health care done.
If she wants to provoke the masses with inflammatory speech, she can't run away crying when she receives flak back.
mbow30
Spudmeister Supreme
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Haven't seen anything posted about the ongoing church scandal(s). Is this rat zinger's shit ever starting to stink or what? It is almost incomprehensible that somebody so close to the church sex abuses was able to rise to the status of pope. Did they not vet this guy?
He is either one of the worst, most evil people in the world, or the biggest pussy ever.
Because between his history in the Hitler Youth and the fact that he very clearly actively helped to cover up the sexual abuse of countless minors literally all over the world.. this ****er's managed to make a mockery of the position he holds (and there are some pretty tough acts to follow in that regard).
How somebody can know about these abuses -- and do nothing but pretend that they never really happened -- and live with their self is beyond me. What a RAT zinger.
Haven't seen anything posted about the ongoing church scandal(s). Is this rat zinger's shit ever starting to stink or what? It is almost incomprehensible that somebody so close to the church sex abuses was able to rise to the status of pope. Did they not vet this guy?
He is either one of the worst, most evil people in the world, or the biggest pussy ever.
Because between his history in the Hitler Youth and the fact that he very clearly actively helped to cover up the sexual abuse of countless minors literally all over the world.. this ****er's managed to make a mockery of the position he holds (and there are some pretty tough acts to follow in that regard).
How somebody can know about these abuses -- and do nothing but pretend that they never really happened -- and live with their self is beyond me. What a RAT zinger.
mbow30
Spudmeister Supreme
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I am actually incredulous over the fact that between charges from Jews that the church turned a blind eye during the Holocaust, and claims of sex abuse cover ups... they decided to nominate a guy who served in the Hitler Youth and who headed the division (is that the right term?) of the church responsible for investigating/dealing with sex abuse cases.
what a farce.
I am actually incredulous over the fact that between charges from Jews that the church turned a blind eye during the Holocaust, and claims of sex abuse cover ups... they decided to nominate a guy who served in the Hitler Youth and who headed the division (is that the right term?) of the church responsible for investigating/dealing with sex abuse cases.
what a farce.
zeke
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did he really head the division? for how long? I had no idea.
I did hear some bishops getting angry at all the "persecution" the catholic church is facing, and complaining that "we're not the only ones who had child molestors" or something.
just evil.
did he really head the division? for how long? I had no idea.
I did hear some bishops getting angry at all the "persecution" the catholic church is facing, and complaining that "we're not the only ones who had child molestors" or something.
just evil.