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[Six]

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But the alternative to catholocism isn't another exclusive religious board, it's a fervently non-denominational board where nothing even resembling preaching is allowed, of any faith. It's not like english vs. french schools, it's more like english-only with daily history lessons about the monarchy vs any language that you feel like being taught in.

But you know what........if enough parents got together and rallied and demanded a school....and could produce the number of students to call for a school for a different religious denomination, that would support and FILL said school for the duration of it's predicted lifetime, then it would make sense to have one built for said denomination. Catholics exist in numbers (due to lack of contraception hahahaha) that support their own schools. There is never a shortage of Catholic children. That being said, not all Catholics choose to send their children to Catholic schools. As far as it goes, like one of the other posters said, since Catholic school boards are proven to operate on a smaller budget than public schools, isn't it a good thing? Doesn't that mean that LESS of your tax dollars are spent on education....so more can be spent on other things that piss you off more?
Surprisingly enough, there are no Catholic schools on PEI. Instead, like I said already, people who send their kids to public schools, get their panties in a twist because my child goes to French school. What's that saying? You can't please everyone.
There will always be some reason to be up in arms about the way tax dollars are spent. Politics aren't fun, and hardly fair. But seriously, as long as your child gets educated, and my kid gets educated, and everyone has the choice of which school to send their children to, who the hell cares. It's about the kids, not my tax dollars.

 

[Artnes]

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Some people might believe that...just like some people might believe the Northside is a good place to raise a family...

I hope you don't take my jabs serious. I just like breakin your balls. They both (North and South) have good and bad areas but 118th gets the most attention out of any area in the city which is what gives it a bad rep with some people.

 

[worm]

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I hope you don't take my jabs serious. I just like breakin your balls. They both (North and South) have good and bad areas but 118th gets the most attention out of any area in the city which is what gives it a bad rep with some people.

Oh I dont take it serious at all. Im just having fun with it.

I am fairly new to the city.
118th Ave is the one I hear the most about... though I have never had a problem there.

 

[corksens]

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Isn't there an Afro-centric public school in TO?

How did something that inforces racial segregation actually pass for approval?

 

[theREALkoreaboy]

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because it doesnt encourage WHITE racial segregation. havent you figured it out yet, cork? you're allowed to segregate yourself if you arent white. hell, its ENCOURAGED. for example, its applauded when blacks vote 90%+ for hopeychange but when 50%+1 of whites voted against him, they were racist.

 

[LeafGm]

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Non Catholics get to send their kids to school on MY DIME! So what's the difference? (Not that my child goes to Catholic school.....he goes to French school......which most people in my area like to bitch about as well....we have our own school board, and the same funding (per capita I would thinkg) as the English schools in the area, but have a much smaller student population)

Okay....is that actually a serious question?

The difference is that Catholics are the only religion that get taxpayer funded schools. No other Christian denomination, or people of other faiths get that option. If they want their kids to have religious teaching, they have to pay out of pocket. Otherwise, they send their kids to public schools, which are strictly secular.

It's unfairness in the most basic sense, and it amounts to state-sanctioning of one particular religion over all others.

 

[SundinsTooth]

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Maybe if all you scared whites didn't move out of the neighborhood the minute someone darker than Halle Berry moved in, they wouldn't need to have an afro-centric school....

 

[JaysCyYoung]

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Hey now, my parents moved us out of Scarborough once too many yellow people moved in and we didn't want to speak Cantonese to communicate. More brothers is perfectly fine.

 

[MindzEye]

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A shame I tell ya, a downright shame

http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/2010/05/18/13993046.html

Deconsecrated, dissolved, disbanded, amalgamated -- Christian churches from traditionally mainstream denominations are closing by the hundreds across Canada in a wave that shows little sign of receding.

And it's not only rural churches such as St. Patrick's that are shutting down in an area of Southwestern Ontario where farms are increasing in size and families disappearing from the land. Small-town, suburban and inner-city churches are also closing and putting their buildings up for sale.

The United Church, Canada's largest Protestant denomination, is now closing about one church a week. In the past decade, it has shut more than 400 churches.

It's a dramatic reversal from 50 years ago, when the denomination -- formed in 1925 -- was riding a wave, opening a new church a week, sometimes two or three.

"We do have too many churches for the number of customers, to put it in purely secular terms," said Rev. David McKane of First St. Andrews United Church in London.

In British Columbia, Anglican churches were evaluated against a set of criteria, including the need for a minimum congregation of 150 people.

Saying a culture change was needed for the church to continue, the Anglican Diocese of British Columbia in January announced it was recommending the "de-establishment" of 19 churches, more than one-quarter of its churches on Vancouver Island and the Gulf Islands.

The United Church, for instance, had a Sunday school membership of 757,338 in 1961, the peak year. Its church membership peaked at 1,064,000 in 1965, said Macdonald.

The latest figures available show membership in 2007 had plunged almost by half, to 558,129.

"That is significant, significant losses. The Presbyterian Church in Canada would echo that and the Anglicans would do the same," Macdonald said.

Evangelical and Baptist denominations appear to be doing better, but whether they're doing much better is a point of huge debate, he said.

"The denomination that is more conservative and evangelical that is not in good shape is the Salvation Army," said Macdonald.

The most recent census data for religion in Canada, taken in 2001, showed a 29% drop in people who identified themselves with the Salvation Army. There was a 5.1% drop in Pentecostal affiliation.

 

[theREALkoreaboy]

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its interesting to note that the catholic church is holding its ground MUCH better than many of the protestant ones are.

catholics>protestants

 

[JaysCyYoung]

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its interesting to note that the catholic church is holding its ground MUCH better than many of the protestant ones are.

catholics>protestants

Non-child diddlers >>>>>>>>>> child diddlers.

 

[JohnnyHolmes]

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religion = fairy tales.

 

[corksens]

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Meanwhile my church just built a 13.5 million dollar facility (which is fully paid for already) which includes seating for 1250.

But not only are both sermons filled, they have over-spill theaters where late comers can watch the sermon on CCTV, along with people with young children.

It's no surprise that traditional churches are closing in large numbers, they aren't moving forward. But faith isn't dying, just places for those people to channel it.

Plus, the old parish system just doesn't work anymore. People pay so much money to the city, province, federal government...not to mention taxes on everything we consume, there is little else to support a community church in every little community.

 

[theREALkoreaboy]

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Non-child diddlers >>>>>>>>>> child diddlers.

right. there's no child diddlers in any other religion. its just the catholics.

 

[JohnnyHolmes]

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Good point, I saw a Rabbi get busted on "To Catch A Predator" once.

 

[JohnnyHolmes]

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[JaysCyYoung]

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right. there's no child diddlers in any other religion. its just the catholics.

It should also be noted that the Roman Catholic Church is TERRIFIED of the spread of Protestant dominations in its traditional strongholds in Central and South America.

 

[JaysCyYoung]

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Protestant groups have spread rapidly through much of Latin America over the past 40 years, driven largely by the efforts of U.S. evangelicals. Gallup's 2007 polls indicate that at least one in three residents say they are Protestants in five Latin American countries (Guyana, 41%; El Salvador, 36%; Honduras, 36%; Nicaragua, 36%; and Guatemala, 35%). At least 1 in 10 residents say so in 13 countries, including Brazil (21%), Chile (17%), and Peru (15%).

This trend has sparked considerable interest in the possible effects of Protestantism on Latin American societies. Some scholars have theorized that it may have a positive effect on economic development in some countries, applying Max Weber's well-known ideas about the "Protestant work ethic" -- namely, their more puritanical approach to day-to-day life helps Protestants resist short-term gratification and encourages hard work, saving, and reinvestment.

For his 1990 book Tongues of Fire, David Martin of the London School of Economics and Political Science compiled case studies from several Latin American countries and concluded that, though its impact depends on local conditions, Protestantism -- especially Pentecostal denominations -- has tended to encourage the development of skills that promote economic activity. "By moulding individuals with some sense of their own selfhood and capacity to choose," Martin wrote, "[Pentecostalism] may well be building up a constituency well-disposed to a capitalistic form of development."

The previous finding suggests there is some validity to this argument, though so far the region-wide impact has been modest. In addition to their greater likelihood to say they have a plan to improve their standard of living, Latin America's Protestants are somewhat more likely than Catholics to say they plan to start their own business in the next 12 months -- 32% vs. 26%, respectively, do so.

However, materialistic impulses do not seem to motivate Protestants any more than they do Catholics. Asked to choose from several attitudes toward life, similar proportions of Protestants and Catholics select "work hard and get rich" (18% of both groups) and "try to make a name for yourself" (4% of Catholics; 3% of Protestants). The biggest difference, as Weber's theory would predict, is that Protestants are nearly twice as likely as Catholics (23% vs. 12%) to select a "pure and just" life, resisting vices that offer short-term gratification.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/108832/latin-americas-entrepreneurs-catholics-vs-protestants.aspx

 

[Leafovic]

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I meant in the really orthodox religious sense of the word you guys aren't Muslims. I'd compare most Balkan Bosniaks or Muslims to the majority of contemporary Western "Christians." I was baptized and occasionally wear a cross but I go to Church maybe once a year and I certainly am not even remotely evangelical, object to most of mainstream institutionalized religion, etc. Culturally secular in many aspects for the most part. I could be wrong but that's been my experience with Bosnians that I know. If anything the Serbs are a lot more religious with their Christian Orthodox traditions than the "Muslim Bosnians."

Yeah you are right. We Bosniaks drink a lot and yeah its more tradition than anything. My dad eats pork, drank like crazy(was a pretty big alcoholic lol). In fact, our imam in Bosnia use to drink some times lmao

 

[MindzEye]

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http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...ports-tycoon-100520/20100520?hub=TopStoriesV2

OTTAWA — Stephen Harper has appointed the single biggest donor from his 2004 Conservative party leadership campaign to a $132,000 a year Senate seat.

Sports tycoon David Braley -- whose political donations to Harper, his party and other Conservatives total $99,000 over the last six years -- is the latest Tory partisan punted into Parliament's upper chamber.

Harper -- who came to office saying he would never appoint senators but instead wanted them elected -- has now appointed 33 Conservatives to the 105-seat upper House in the last 18 months.

"It may take 10 years to balance the budget, 10 years to lower taxes, and 10 years to reform people's pension, but it takes only 10 minutes to reward friends with Senate appointments," Harper, as a Reform backbencher, once complained in the House of Commons.