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OT: The Official Toronto Raptors Thread

Bucks should scare you more than any of them. Just because the answer to that riddle is "stop Giannis", that doesn't mean that we can stop Giannis. He has legitimately taken another step forward this year. He's better at pretty much everything. Middleton may also be turning into a legit 2nd option for a contender, he's been awesome at the offensive end this season. Super efficient 20ppg.

and yeah, the Celtics shouldn't scare anyone. They're the 4th or 5th best team in the east.
 
celts are well coached, though. and their underlying numbers are up there with ours, and ahead of the rest of the pack.

and yes, I hate giving them any credit.
 
MindzEye said:
This team can beat anyone in the league if it's healthy. I've watched a bunch of the Bucks, Lakers, and Clippers (the only 3 teams I would consider favourites over this Raptors team in a 7 game series)

- Bucks are very much a one man gang. If you can get the ball out of Giannis' hands in transition and turn them into a half court team, they struggle. Still very beatable, but Giannis is so fucking good.

- Lakers and Clippers can get got for the same reasons. I'm not convinced that either of them have the scoring depth to come up big in games where their big guns aren't clicking. Especially the Lakers. Their 3rd-6th highest scorers this season have combined for 12 20 point games...that's pretty horrible. Norm (our 5th highest scorer) by himself also has 12.

Which isn't to say that either can't win a title. They both look like they can, but they definitely aren't the calibre of the championship teams we've seen over the last few years. Not as good as last year's Raptors teams, the Warriors, the Lebron Cavs, Spurs, Heatles, etc. It's as wide open as I've ever seen it this season.
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The really interesting thing for me about the Clippers as a potential finals opponent is what Kawhi Leonard looked like last year by the time he'd made it through three entire playoff rounds. He was still really fucking good, obviously, but he was also hobbling around like an arthritic old man and was a shadow of the player we'd seen against the Bucks and the 76ers.

It didn't end up mattering, because the Warriors were hobbled even worse and the Raptors had a lot of depth. But if the Clips don't have the depth to back Kawhi up, and he comes into the finals hobbled against a healthy Raptors or Bucks team...
 
Preston said:
That's a terrible post.
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Terrible for what , not sure what is so terrible about a one liner

Heat are a well rounded team and the Celts have 3 legit snipers who could score

Both have great coaching and Heat especially have good depth .

We will take Milwaukee out in 6
 
GEEMAN said:
Terrible for what , not sure what is so terrible about a one liner

Heat are a well rounded team and the Celts have 3 legit snipers who could score

Both have great coaching and Heat especially have good depth .

We will take Milwaukee out in 6
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what's a legit sniper?
 
zeke said:
what's a legit sniper?
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Volume scorers who murder ball movement because they thrive in isolation? I'm more worried about guys who can shoot and move the ball like Hayward and Smart than I am Tatum and Brown. Those two will get theirs, but I don't think they have the overall positive offensive impact some people think they have.
 
MindzEye said:
Volume scorers who murder ball movement because they thrive in isolation? I'm more worried about guys who can shoot and move the ball like Hayward and Smart than I am Tatum and Brown. Those two will get theirs, but I don't think they have the overall positive offensive impact some people think they have.
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Its a great matchup if we end up meeting . Rumours are Celts are close to getting Capella for their front court
 
GEEMAN said:
Its a great matchup if we end up meeting . Rumours are Celts are close to getting Capella for their front court
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I'm not convinced that makes them better. They have to salary match to stay cap compliant (I'm not an expert on what they might have for trade exceptions, etc) so I'm assuming a deal will start with

Theis (who at 5m + 5m team option, I'd rather have straight up than Capela at 3/58 after this season)
1st (Bucks)
Salary Match of 10-12 million (which means at least one of Smart *12m*, Kanter *4.5*, Langford *3.7*)

I kind of hope that Boston does make the deal. Morey doesn't necessarily have to do it (and a massive analytics nerd like him wanting to trade Capela is a glowing red flag to me) and if he does, he's going to get full value. I think Capela being a walking double/double and rim protector/elite rebounder is going to leave him overvalued for the impact he actually brings. More than that, I think for the brand of ball the Celtics play, he's stuck in the dunker spot and hurts their spacing. If Capela gets further than 12 feet from the rim you just don't have to bother putting a body on him.
 
zeke said:
Hayward for capela makes sense.
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Yeah. I don't think it makes Boston better (worse actually), but for what each team thinks they need, it makes sense.

Would be a complicated trade though. Hayward is big money. Houston would have to send something like the corpse of Nene (10m this season and next) to make it work.
 
That full OG/Ibaka segment was quality.

Example 3765 of how NBA and NFL players are way cooler and more entertaining than NHLers
 
MindzEye said:
I'm not convinced that makes them better. They have to salary match to stay cap compliant (I'm not an expert on what they might have for trade exceptions, etc) so I'm assuming a deal will start with

Theis (who at 5m + 5m team option, I'd rather have straight up than Capela at 3/58 after this season)
1st (Bucks)
Salary Match of 10-12 million (which means at least one of Smart *12m*, Kanter *4.5*, Langford *3.7*)

I kind of hope that Boston does make the deal. Morey doesn't necessarily have to do it (and a massive analytics nerd like him wanting to trade Capela is a glowing red flag to me) and if he does, he's going to get full value. I think Capela being a walking double/double and rim protector/elite rebounder is going to leave him overvalued for the impact he actually brings. More than that, I think for the brand of ball the Celtics play, he's stuck in the dunker spot and hurts their spacing. If Capela gets further than 12 feet from the rim you just don't have to bother putting a body on him.
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Morey is always a mover and a shaker
zeke said:
6ers ain't very good.
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They are going nowhere with Joel and Simmons
 
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