MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Boring? Have you not been watching the scottie propaganda tapes?
OT: The Official Toronto Raptors Thread
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Boring? Have you not been watching the scottie propaganda tapes?
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Trades are easy to make when you're tanking. But he just turned a top 5 defender and top 10 scorer into crap and picks.
Better turn those picks into something
LeafOfFaith
Well-known member
I'm bored! I need trades and signings!
Although, I do love that there's nothing to talk about, and hence less time here.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
You could be whinging less and watching more scottie tapes.
Scottie propaganda is the cure for boredom
LeafOfFaith
Well-known member
No!
Hoss
Well-known member
I actually think this is a good thing.... This year feels like they both mean business and you have guys with something to prove
Deckie007
Well-known member
you follow the most interesting accounts
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Oh that? That's just my alt.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Damn, this is going to be a bit of a book.
Here's the RAPTOR projections for relevant teams in the East....problem is, more than half of the East is relevant now. Top 8 in their rotation and in order:
Celtics
Tatum: 11.7
Brown: 7.6
Horford: 4.3
Time Lord: 4.2
Smart: 6.7
White: 6.4
Brogdon: 3.1
G Williams: 1.6
RAPTOR = 45.6
Sixers
Embiid: 13.9
Harden: 8.5
Melton: 5.2
Maxey: 4.0
Thybulle: 5.3
Harris: 2.4
Tucker: 0.8
Korkmaz: 1.2
RAPTOR = 41.3
Raptors
Pascal: 5.8
FVV: 10.2
Scottie: 7.8
GTJ: 4.5
OG: 4.9
Otto: 2.7
Boucher: 2.9
Precious: 1.7
(Thad 1.8....but I'd be shocked if Precious didn't way out perform this prediction)
RAPTOR = 40.5
Hawks
Trae: 7.8
Murray: 7.9
Capela: 5.8
Collins: 4.8
Bogdan: 5.4
Okongwu: 3.3
Hunter: 1.9
Holiday: 0.9
RAPTOR = 37.8
Bucks
Giannis: 12.9
Jrue: 7.4
Middleton: 4.2
Brook: 1.3
Portis: 3.2
Connaughton: 2.7
Allen: 2.2
Matthews: 0.8
RAPTOR = 34.7
Heat
Jimmy: 9.7
Bam: 6.7
Kyle: 4.6
Herro: 3.8
Oladipo: 1.6
Robinson: 3.2
Martin: 2.5
Vincent: 2.5
RAPTOR = 34.6
Cavs
Garland: 8.0
Mitchell: 6.9
Allen: 6.0
Mobley: 3.7
Levert: 2.0
Okoro: 2.2
Rubio: 2.4
Osman: 0.5
RAPTOR = 31.7
Brooklyn
Durant: 6.9
Kyrie: 7.9
YungSocialite: 3.9
Harris: 0.5
O'Neale: 4.5
Claxton: 1.9
Mills: 1.1
Curry: 2.5
RAPTOR = 29.2
Bulls
Demar: 2.3
Vuc: 4.7
Lavine: 3.8
Lonzo: 5.9
Caruso: 5.7
Drummond: 3.0
White: 2.0
DJJ: 1.0
RAPTOR = 28.4
Here's the RAPTOR projections for relevant teams in the East....problem is, more than half of the East is relevant now. Top 8 in their rotation and in order:
Celtics
Tatum: 11.7
Brown: 7.6
Horford: 4.3
Time Lord: 4.2
Smart: 6.7
White: 6.4
Brogdon: 3.1
G Williams: 1.6
RAPTOR = 45.6
Sixers
Embiid: 13.9
Harden: 8.5
Melton: 5.2
Maxey: 4.0
Thybulle: 5.3
Harris: 2.4
Tucker: 0.8
Korkmaz: 1.2
RAPTOR = 41.3
Raptors
Pascal: 5.8
FVV: 10.2
Scottie: 7.8
GTJ: 4.5
OG: 4.9
Otto: 2.7
Boucher: 2.9
Precious: 1.7
(Thad 1.8....but I'd be shocked if Precious didn't way out perform this prediction)
RAPTOR = 40.5
Hawks
Trae: 7.8
Murray: 7.9
Capela: 5.8
Collins: 4.8
Bogdan: 5.4
Okongwu: 3.3
Hunter: 1.9
Holiday: 0.9
RAPTOR = 37.8
Bucks
Giannis: 12.9
Jrue: 7.4
Middleton: 4.2
Brook: 1.3
Portis: 3.2
Connaughton: 2.7
Allen: 2.2
Matthews: 0.8
RAPTOR = 34.7
Heat
Jimmy: 9.7
Bam: 6.7
Kyle: 4.6
Herro: 3.8
Oladipo: 1.6
Robinson: 3.2
Martin: 2.5
Vincent: 2.5
RAPTOR = 34.6
Cavs
Garland: 8.0
Mitchell: 6.9
Allen: 6.0
Mobley: 3.7
Levert: 2.0
Okoro: 2.2
Rubio: 2.4
Osman: 0.5
RAPTOR = 31.7
Brooklyn
Durant: 6.9
Kyrie: 7.9
YungSocialite: 3.9
Harris: 0.5
O'Neale: 4.5
Claxton: 1.9
Mills: 1.1
Curry: 2.5
RAPTOR = 29.2
Bulls
Demar: 2.3
Vuc: 4.7
Lavine: 3.8
Lonzo: 5.9
Caruso: 5.7
Drummond: 3.0
White: 2.0
DJJ: 1.0
RAPTOR = 28.4
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Some general thoughts:
- I think the Hawks are a bit overrated here. Dejounte is a legitimate impact add, but I don't know if he's enough to bring together a group that just hasn't worked together. Less than the sum of their parts.
- There's been a lot of whining on NBA twitter this week whenever the Bulls are left off anyone's playoff lists, with a lot of the usual "lol Raptors"...but they were okay just okay last year, Demar & Vuc are now 33 and 32 respectively. Good players, but guys whose usage should be getting ramped down. They need to remain feature players. Still not enough depth or D here.
- Brooklyn is going to be such a melodrama. Especially if they start the season 10-10 or something.
- Heat probably needed to go for it this summer and didn't. Jimmy about to turn 33, they need healthy Kyle so bad but 36 is 36. They need to load manage our boy. They had him playing 34 minutes a night last year...get that shit to 29.
- I've gone over a bunch of the past data in a few analytics systems and I think I'm going to get my ticket early for not buying the Cavs hype. They're good, and will probably win 48-52 games, but I think we're about to hear some ECF & = Boston talk. Nope.
- I think the Hawks are a bit overrated here. Dejounte is a legitimate impact add, but I don't know if he's enough to bring together a group that just hasn't worked together. Less than the sum of their parts.
- There's been a lot of whining on NBA twitter this week whenever the Bulls are left off anyone's playoff lists, with a lot of the usual "lol Raptors"...but they were okay just okay last year, Demar & Vuc are now 33 and 32 respectively. Good players, but guys whose usage should be getting ramped down. They need to remain feature players. Still not enough depth or D here.
- Brooklyn is going to be such a melodrama. Especially if they start the season 10-10 or something.
- Heat probably needed to go for it this summer and didn't. Jimmy about to turn 33, they need healthy Kyle so bad but 36 is 36. They need to load manage our boy. They had him playing 34 minutes a night last year...get that shit to 29.
- I've gone over a bunch of the past data in a few analytics systems and I think I'm going to get my ticket early for not buying the Cavs hype. They're good, and will probably win 48-52 games, but I think we're about to hear some ECF & = Boston talk. Nope.
Ainge the snake will create a competitive roster at some point
How many more fucken years can you keep disappointing in the playoffs
He flipped a bad contract into a half decade of picks as Gobert is solid but limited
Ainge is like Masai , they fix things rather kick the can down the road .
Fuck it , start over .
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Now the West because bored
Nuggets
Jokic: 19.9
Murray: 3.9
MPJ: 3.9
Brown: 3.5
Hyland: 2.8
Gordon: 2.4
KCP: 1.9
Reed: 0.9
RAPTOR=39.2
Suns
Booker: 8.5
CP3: 6.6
Ayton: 4.3
Bridges: 7.5
Johnson: 3.7
Crowder: 3.6
Payne: 2.6
Shamet: 1.1
RAPTOR=37.9
TWolves
Gobert: 10.2
Edwards: 9.4
KAT: 7.1
D'Angelo: 4.7
McDaniels: 2.7
Anderson: 2.2
Nowell: 1.2
Reid: 0.9
RAPTOR=37.8
Memphis
Ja: 8.2
Bane: 7.4
Brooks: 5.0
Jackson: 4.9
Adams: 3.7
Clarke: 3.1
Ziaire: 2.4
Konchar: 2.4
RAPTOR=37.1
Mavs
Luka: 16.0
DFS: 5.2
Dinwiddie: 2.6
Hardaway: 3.1
Wood: 1.9
Bullock: 1.8
Bertans: 1.5
Green: 1.2
RAPTOR=33.3
GSW
Steph: 9.7
Wiggins: 5.2
Dray: 5.1
Poole: 4.4
Looney: 3.2
Klay: 1.9 (2 years of data missing from a 3 year sample is hard to project, so is probably undervalued here)
DiVencenzo: 2.6
Wiseman: 0.3
RAPTOR=32.4
Clippers
George: 10.3
Kawhi: 4.5
Covington: 4.9
Norm: 1.9
Batum: 2.5
Zubac: 3.2
Jackson: 2.4
Kennard: 2.2
RAPTOR=31.9
NOP
Ingram: 4.3
McCollum: 4.6
Jones: 4.8
Jonas: 4.4
Alvarado: 3.5
Zion: 3.1
Devonte: 3.1
Nance: 1.5
RAPTOR=29.5
Lakers
Lebron: 6.9
Davis: 6.2
Westbrook: 0.3
Beverly: 3.6
Walker: 0.0
Reaves: 2.5
JTA: 0.8
Brown: 0.8
RAPTOR=22.1....L.O.L
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Thoughts on the west:
- I think this model is going to struggle with a bunch of stuff in GSW. Intangibles, Klay, and the trimumverate of high level kids that could break out into producers (that the model all have as replacement level players this year...I would bank on at least one of Wiseman, Kuminga or Moody turning into a real rotation quality player this year)
- LeGM has built the worst supporting cast in the west. I expect the trade rumbles to start up by mid season.
- Minnesota is some good trade deadline depth away from being a title contender problem. I don't like D'Lo on a good team though, and they're lacking quality behind him.
- NOP is maybe the most interesting and unpredictable team in the west. All they're missing is a high octane star to drive the bus and they're in the mix for the top half of the conference imo. If Zion is more of a 8-9 win player than a 3 win player (and he looked great in off season photos, best shape I've seen him in since Duke), NOP is interesting AF. Well balanced attack, good role players.
- Clippers under rated or over the hill? I'm honestly not sure. Need to see Kawhi first. If he comes back as an impact guy, they're a contender. If he's what the model thinks he is, a high end 2 way role player...they're fucked.
- I think this model is going to struggle with a bunch of stuff in GSW. Intangibles, Klay, and the trimumverate of high level kids that could break out into producers (that the model all have as replacement level players this year...I would bank on at least one of Wiseman, Kuminga or Moody turning into a real rotation quality player this year)
- LeGM has built the worst supporting cast in the west. I expect the trade rumbles to start up by mid season.
- Minnesota is some good trade deadline depth away from being a title contender problem. I don't like D'Lo on a good team though, and they're lacking quality behind him.
- NOP is maybe the most interesting and unpredictable team in the west. All they're missing is a high octane star to drive the bus and they're in the mix for the top half of the conference imo. If Zion is more of a 8-9 win player than a 3 win player (and he looked great in off season photos, best shape I've seen him in since Duke), NOP is interesting AF. Well balanced attack, good role players.
- Clippers under rated or over the hill? I'm honestly not sure. Need to see Kawhi first. If he comes back as an impact guy, they're a contender. If he's what the model thinks he is, a high end 2 way role player...they're fucked.