MyNameIsJonas
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My feelings are forever hurt around you people.
OT: The Official Toronto Raptors Thread
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MindzEye
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EPM has him as a 50th percentile player overall, BPM has him at a +0.4, so a bit above average.
Yeah, if a guy with those impacts had significantly improved deficiencies, he'd probably be a low tier starter, similar to someone like Dennis.
MindzEye
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I figure it's the cost for my putting up with years of online sexual harassment without finding you and beating you into a fine paste.
MyNameIsJonas
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Ill take that trade off.
Im not sure i want you bringing receipts to an independent arbitrator
MyNameIsJonas
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Unless twas a jury of my peers. Scorned loveless weirdos who understand.
And my peers have alot more time on their hands for jury duty than your peers
zeke
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EPM has him at -1.6. That's not good. That's very bad for an extremely sheltered player.
That comes with a -1.9 on defense., surrounded by a good defensive team. You can really tell that he's benefitting from their defensive protection when you realize that only one other rotation guy is negative on defense there, and that's Hauser, who I think we can all admit is terrible defensively - and he's still at -0.7, miles better than Pritchard's number.
He has a slightly positive offensive contribution at +0.3, but that's all due to him being able to hit open 3s, a shot which he wouldn't get nearly as much for most any other team.
Grant Williams, also undersized for his position but able to hit open 3s, looked "ok" in a sheltered role too on Boston, even by EPM and the like, and now has been compeltely exposed in dallas.
MyNameIsJonas
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Marcus Smart
Peyton Prichard
Time Lord
Kristaps
Grant Williams
There hasn't been a recent Celtic you dont consistently shit on, and its not even Brown or Tatum, its these weird rando Celtics you have a bizarre vitriol for
Peyton Prichard
Time Lord
Kristaps
Grant Williams
There hasn't been a recent Celtic you dont consistently shit on, and its not even Brown or Tatum, its these weird rando Celtics you have a bizarre vitriol for
MindzEye
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The NBA is weird this year according to EPM. The average is 0.0 by design, but the median is about -1.6-1.7. The good players are better, and the bad players are worse. Pritchard appears to be right in the middle, whatever the number grade is. So no, that's not very bad for a sheltered player this year. He's almost dead nuts in the middle of what the median NBA player looks like in impact this year.
The NBA appears to be getting more stratified, talent wise. Dunno if this is one weird year or a trend.
+0.3 is 73rd percentile this year. So again, same point above applies here.
As for him not getting that shot on other teams, maybe. Boston does take the most 3's in the league but there's a handful of teams that are close and efficient with it as well. GSW, Dallas, Sacto, etc. Is Pritchard a systems guy who only fits on team that put emphasis on floor spacing and ball movement? Sure. But that's where the best offences in the league are going, I don't see this is a knock on him at all.
zeke
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and Smart and both Williamses have been disasters away from boston, as I said they would be.
and I said that Porzingis trade was a great trade for them, much like the White trade was, and was really annoyed by it.
zeke
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by far and away the worst in the celtics' rotation, way worse than even turnstile Hauser.
it's not about systems. it's about a celtics teams that now always has 3 shot creators on the court at all times, leaving Pritchard all the space in the world.
MindzEye
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I'm not sure what the point is here....Pritchard is the 8th best player on the best team in the league according to most analytics? Sure, fine.
If the argument is that they're propping up a bad player, well, they took on a lot of our bad players off of former iterations of the Raptors and can't seem to prop them up. Brisset, Delano, and Svi are as terrible for the Celtics as they were in Toronto (worse, actually).
It definitely is.
Eh, his 2 most common lineups are
Pritch-Holiday-Tatum-Hauser-Horford & Pritch-Holiday-Tatum-Hauser-Kornet.
This ain't it.
zeke
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Yes you arr.
That was just defensively. By far the worst defensive rating in the rotation. Way worse than even turnstile Hauser.
Literally just about talent. He's the last guy any defense thinks about against that team.
And he's the last guy the defense cares about in both of those lineups.
MindzEye
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Sure, but he makes 7 million dollars and is fine. That's the point. You want to have multiple max players on the roster at the same time so that you can win, it's nice to find 7 million dollar players who can actually do things in your rotation. That's just a hair over Gradey Dick "2 yrs away from being 2 yrs away" money.
MindzEye
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Can Dunleavy still shoot?
