OT: The Official Toronto Raptors Thread

[mbow30]

Mindzeye… settling for mediocrity since 1982

 

[MyNameIsJonas]

At least a Saboner has a somewhat realistic chance of leading to gratification as opposed to a Giannis hard on which is imaginary and a Durant one which leads to tears.

 

[MyNameIsJonas]

Also, I'd get Smart just to see Zeke break down....then i'd trade for and play Grant Williams

 

[MindzEye]

This is what happens when you get hard from BPM.

BPM adores him and thinks he's a top 10 player. EPM thinks he's just good. M.ePM thinks he's somewhere in between and that his ability to stretch the floor is underutilized in Sacto. Having him go to the nail and direct traffic is a bad use of his skillset. Elite rebounder, great passer, can hit the open 3. Isn't a rim protector but overall his defensive impacts are positive. Would be a pretty big step up from Jake.

 

[MindzEye]

Mindzeye… settling for mediocrity since 1982

Dude has finished top 10 in MVP voting twice in the last 3 years mang. Best rebounder in the league 3 years straight.

That's not mediocre.

 

[zeke]

View: https://x.com/Tyler6680268439/status/1935145711336591647

 

[Pwner]

It feels like everyone is using Toronto, but...


View: https://x.com/eriksalmela/status/1935022844267868669

 

[MindzEye]

Simons isn't an upgrade though...

 

[zeke]

i think that deal is about getting the 11th.

 

[MyNameIsJonas]

Isnt Simons an absolute abortion defensively?

 

[MindzEye]

i think that deal is about getting the 11th.

Historically, does the 11th even land a rotation player more than 50% of the time?

 

[MindzEye]

Isnt Simons an absolute abortion defensively?

Yes. Makes RJ look like Jrue.

 

[MindzEye]

Historically, does the 11th even land a rotation player more than 50% of the time?

I take it back...there's some, uhhhh...good names at the 11 spot over the last 10 years.

 

[Pwner]

Also, 9 +11 could be packaged to move up in the draft or get you a good player in a trade. Plus you have Simmons microwaving off the bench.

 

[zeke]

Historically, does the 11th even land a rotation player more than 50% of the time?

 

[MindzEye]

Bye RJ.

 

[MyNameIsJonas]

Isnt this draft kinda weak? not that im against moving up to 11 at the expense of RJ to Simons and losing Shead

 

[MindzEye]

Isnt this draft kinda weak? not that im against moving up to 11 at the expense of RJ to Simons and losing Shead

I think so personally, but that doesn't seem to be the consensus. Flagg-Harper are a good but just a good 1-2 compared to most drafts but 3-10 looks weak to me. This kind of reminds me of the 2019 draft tbh, where there was one super hyped guy at the top of the draft (Zion), another potential perennial all star guard as the consensus #2 (Ja), and then a grab bag of guys with upside but with holes in their game/profile.

Fwiw, the rest of the top 10 in 2019 was RJ, De'Andre Hunter, Darius Garland, Jarrett Culver, Coby White, Jaxson Hayes, Rui, & Cam Reddish. 2019 was a pretty heavily hyped draft.

 

[GEEMAN]

I think so personally, but that doesn't seem to be the consensus. Flagg-Harper are a good but just a good 1-2 compared to most drafts but 3-10 looks weak to me. This kind of reminds me of the 2019 draft tbh, where there was one super hyped guy at the top of the draft (Zion), another potential perennial all star guard as the consensus #2 (Ja), and then a grab bag of guys with upside but with holes in their game/profile.

Fwiw, the rest of the top 10 in 2019 was RJ, De'Andre Hunter, Darius Garland, Jarrett Culver, Coby White, Jaxson Hayes, Rui, & Cam Reddish. 2019 was a pretty heavily hyped draft.

Raps are elite at finding talent

 

[MindzEye]

Raps are elite at finding talent

Yes, but there's always an element of luck involved too. The same people who drafted Siakam and OG late in the 1st round picked Malachi one pick before Desmond Bane.