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OT: The Toronto Blue Jays

A history of CF and this FO

Signs Springer 6/150 to be their CF

3 years into that deal, realize Springer is better in a corner and they need a new CF, so they deal a top 5-10 MLB prospect for a cost controlled, glove first, with "interesting bat" CF in Varsho.

Immediately sign Kiermaier to play CF, and push Varsho into LF, devaluing him immensely.

Proceed to have awful offensive output from their OF

Bring back KK as CF and run this shit back again?

Force themselves to play Davis Schneider everyday because he keeps hitting, but only in LF,( not 3B or 2B for some reason) thus taking their two all defense LHH CF that struggle hitting as some sort of dual handed CF platoon.
 
The more i think on it, as much as i hate the IKF deal, both in terms of redundancy and overpayment, i think i hate KK even more, which is a shame, because i like the player, and person, but fuck me is he unnecessary and LF was the one spot other than DH ( adequately filled by Turner) where a bopper could have been added

Tyler Oneill was given away for a ham sandwich and is raking with Boston. Hell, if Schneider was an OF in your mind, use him as an everyday LF, sign an OF4 that can play CF like Michael A Taylor, for half the cost of KK, and i dunno, add a real 3B or something.
 
And so Axl doesnt have to do it himself ill mention, yes, Oneill was bad last year, OF4 dont matter, KK is good and im overreacting....bleh.
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
i think i hate KK even more
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My only question is do you realize how silly this is? I know from your posting history you hate virtually everybody and almost everything sucks, but there is no reason to hate Kevin Kiermaier or the decision to bring him back, even if you don't think they maximized the dollar value. I don't even really disagree with you on this point, I see the potential redundancy, other than to say that I'd much rather pay a little more for KK than Taylor. Really think the expectation was sure, great D in LF, but moreso that Varsho's bat takes a step forward this year. Most baseball analysts think that, by the way, even though he's off to a shitty start.

Also agree I'd like to see more Schneider in the infield, but Biggio has staked a claim on 2B so far.

MyNameIsJonas said:
Signs Springer 6/150 to be their CF

3 years into that deal, realize Springer is better in a corner and they need a new CF
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Also I am certain you know this already and just worded it in a negative way because #Jonas, but teams do this all the fucking time. Nobody realistically expected George Springer to be the CF for 6 years, and the last year was probably only added to get the deal done anyway. I mean "SS" Xander Bogaerts (remember the guy whose ridiculous contract you were interested in acquiring?) was just signed last year to an 11-YEAR contract and is already starting every game at 2B for fuck's sake. There are many examples of this. You think Will Smith will still be a starting C in 2034?
 
KK cant hit, Varsho cant really hit, the former makes the latter even worse by putting his glove in LF....you cant possibly be this dumb.

LF was one of two spots they could actually improve on from the offense. 3B was the other, they chose not to

I should have made it clear, switching from George in CF was the correct move, and frankly i dont even hate the Varsho trade in practice, but the execution of using him once the trade was made was very poor.
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
KK cant hit, Varsho cant really hit, the former makes the latter even worse by putting his glove in LF....you cant possibly be this dumb.
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I guess you missed the part of my post where I said I don't disagree with you on this point. But to be clear, Varsho's wRC+ in the minors was 150 (A-), 121 (A+), 159 (AA) and 161 (AAA).

In the majors, 100 in a half season then 107 with 27 homers and a .207 ISO in 2022. The power is in there to be an above-average bat. Of course he still has to actually do it for a full season in the majors. But they also mentioned giving Davis Schneider some time in LF in the off-season, this was always part of the plan.
 
axlsalinger said:
I guess you missed the part of my post where I said I don't disagree with you on this point. But to be clear, Varsho's wRC+ in the minors was 150 (A-), 121 (A+), 159 (AA) and 161 (AAA).

In the majors, 100 in a half season then 107 with 27 homers and a .207 ISO in 2022. The power is in there to be an above-average bat. Of course he still has to actually do it for a full season in the majors. But they also mentioned giving Davis Schneider some time in LF in the off-season, this was always part of the plan.
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They could have done him a world of favors by simply making him the everyday CF, and adding an actual power bat in LF. They are putting too much value on LF defense, and dont seem to care about having offensive black holes in the lineup.

I have a big problem with that
 
Also, fairly telling they arent confident they are making said WC game this season when you celebrate the three previous losses. It's not like you staple a 2024 flaccid playoff appearance on top of that banner.
 
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