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OT: The Toronto Blue Jays

Next year without any major additions.

CF Varsho 28
RF Springer 34
LF Loperfido 26
3B Clement 29
SS Bichette 27
2B Jimenez 24
1B Horwitz 27
DH Guerrero 26
C Kirk 26

UT Barger 25
OF Schneider 26
IF Wagner 26
C

Guys we want to start in AAA:

UT McAdoo 23
OF Clase 23
IF Orelvis 23


Unless we have some great love for Berroa for some reason then there's not much reason to dump any of these guys.
 
zeke said:
Next year without any major additions.

CF Varsho 28
RF Springer 34
LF Loperfido 26
3B Clement 29
SS Bichette 27
2B Jimenez 24
1B Horwitz 27
DH Guerrero 26
C Kirk 26

UT Barger 25
OF Schneider 26
IF Wagner 26
C

Guys we want to start in AAA:

UT McAdoo 23
OF Clase 23
IF Orelvis 23


Unless we have some great love for Berroa for some reason then there's not much reason to dump any of these guys.
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That looks bleak. Do we not have any top level prospects coming?
 
The 2 top prospects are Ricky Tiedemann who just had TJ, and Arjun Nimmala who has big upside but is only 18 and several years away.

That being said, Barger and Orelvis are legit prospects. As are several of the new guys including Bloss and Clase who we should see next year.

They're definitely going to be looking at trades and free agency to bring in pieces as well.
 
worm said:
That looks bleak. Do we not have any top level prospects coming?
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the three 23yr olds i have starting in AAA there all look like good to very good prospects I think. I'd like to see them legit dominate AAA first tho.

and I don't actually think that roster looks bleak, though a bounceback from Bo would be important.
 
The Blue Jays are exploring the possibility of having Vladimir Guerrero Jr. play third base next season, and planning to use him there more frequently in September. Guerrero hasn’t been an everyday third baseman in four years, but considering there’s a deep crop of free-agent first basemen this winter, led by Pete Alonso and Christian Walker, it will be much easier to fill a hole at first base than third base.
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That roster using Fangraphs' Rest of Season Combined Projections:


1. 1B Horwitz .353obp, 116wrc+
2. DH Guerrero .371obp, 150wrc+
3. SS Bichette .320obp, 114wrc+
4. C Kirk .343obp, 113wrc+
5. RF Springer .321obp, 112wrc+
6. CF Varsho .302obp, 106wrc+
7. LF Schneider .318obp, 104wrc+
8. 2B Wagner .329obp, 101wrc+
9. 3B Clement .304obp, 99wrc+

X. UT Barger .302obp, 97wrc+
X. IF Jimenez .320obp, 95wrc+
X. OF Loperfido .292obp, 89wrc+
X. C


Still projects like a solid lineup.
 
zeke said:
That roster using Fangraphs' Rest of Season Combined Projections:


1. 1B Horwitz .353obp, 116wrc+
2. DH Guerrero .371obp, 150wrc+
3. SS Bichette .320obp, 114wrc+
4. C Kirk .343obp, 113wrc+
5. RF Springer .321obp, 112wrc+
6. CF Varsho .302obp, 106wrc+
7. LF Schneider .318obp, 104wrc+
8. 2B Wagner .329obp, 101wrc+
9. 3B Clement .304obp, 99wrc+

X. UT Barger .302obp, 97wrc+
X. IF Jimenez .320obp, 95wrc+
X. OF Loperfido .292obp, 89wrc+
X. C


Still projects like a solid lineup.
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They're going to continue being wrong about Kirk and Springer though.

That lineup is all huge question marks other than Vladdy and probably Bo.
 
maybe, maybe not.

Kirk

Season Total: 291pa, 90wrc+
Since May 1: 213pa, 102wrc+
Since Jul 1: 139pa, 112wrc+
Sine Jansen Trade: 94pa, 136wrc+


Springer

Season Total: 516pa, 99wrc+
Since May 1: 388pa, 105wrc+
Since June 1: 300pa, 112wrc+
Since July 1: 197pa, 115wrc+
 
It doesn't actually matter, but fun to look at some guys since the trades:


Good, Full Time

* Kikuchi: 5gms, 5.6ip/gm, 72era-, 87fip-, 75xfip-, 3.5war/32gm

Good, Part Time

* Kiermaier: 41pa, .320bip, 91wrc+, 4.8war/650


Ok, Full Time

* Falefa: 93pa, .286bip, 72wrc+, 0.7war/650
* Jansen: 45pa, .259bip, 101wrc+, 0.0war/650

Ok, Part Time

* Pearson: 7gms, 1.6ip/gm, 59era-, 112fip-, 103xfip-, 0.9war/65gm
* Richards: 10gms, 1.3ip/gm, 103era-, 101fip-, 143xfip-, 0.0war/65gm


Bad, Full Time

* Biggio: 88pa, .262bip, 85wrc+, -1.5war/650
* Turner: 80pa, .264bip, 81wrc+, -2.4war/650

Bad, Part Time

* Garcia: 10gms, 0.9ip/gm, 156era-, 183fip-, 132xfip-, -2.0war/65gm
* Mayza: 5gms, 1.0ip/gm, 132era-, 131fip-, 108xfip-, -1.3war/65gm



Kikuchi and Kiermaier the only ones giving performances that we miss. Though I guess you could include Jansen in there as he'd still be a nice upgrade over Serven.


FO did a real good job at the deadline. Heck, we've already gotten comparable contributions from our trade returns even now:


* Wagner: 37pa, 116wrc+, 3.5war/650
* Loperfido: 76pa, 92wrc+, 1.7war/650
* Yarbrough: 6gms, 2.3ip/gm, 64era-, 92fip-, 96xfip-, 2.7war/65gm
 
zeke said:
the three 23yr olds i have starting in AAA there all look like good to very good prospects I think. I'd like to see them legit dominate AAA first tho.

and I don't actually think that roster looks bleak, though a bounceback from Bo would be important.
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BO will be gone
 
axlsalinger said:
The 2 top prospects are Ricky Tiedemann who just had TJ, and Arjun Nimmala who has big upside but is only 18 and several years away.

That being said, Barger and Orelvis are legit prospects. As are several of the new guys including Bloss and Clase who we should see next year.

They're definitely going to be looking at trades and free agency to bring in pieces as well.
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Barger has legit power of all the yutes
 
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