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OT: The Toronto Blue Jays

zeke said:
Francis was pretty fluky last year i wouldn't expect much more than fungible 4/5 starter stuff from him this year. Wouldn't be surprised to see him implode completely tbh but i'm not expecting that.
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Yeah, well Francis is pencilled in as their number 5. He could take a step back from last year and still be pretty serviceable there.

The main issue is that if you don’t get 25-30 starts out of all of Gausman, Bassitt, Berrios, Scherzer and Francis, the lack of depth is going to sting.
 
axlsalinger said:
Depth starters actually solid this year, Jake Bloss, Yariel Rodriguez, Eric Lauer, and eventually Alek Manoah.
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Combined -0.7 WAR from that group last year.

Lauer didn’t pitch in 2024 but was -1.0 WAR in 2023.

Manoah and Bloss were also both terrible in AAA last year.

Disagree on that being “solid depth.”
 
manny said:
Combined -0.7 WAR from that group last year.

Lauer didn’t pitch in 2024 but was -1.0 WAR in 2023.

Manoah and Bloss were also both terrible in AAA last year.

Disagree on that being “solid depth.”
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wait, you think every team has 3-WAR starters waiting in AAA?

Bloss is a very good prospect. Yariel looked very good at times last year. Manoah was an All-Star in 2022. Lauer has been a mediocre but serviceable starter before. It's very solid depth.

In fact, I only posted that because it's been a real weakness of this team the last couple of years.
 
I'm pretty high on Bloss. We'll see, of course, but he should be a solid enough 4-5 starter, maybe even a 3 eventually. Though this may not happen right away (he was just drafted in 2023 in the 3rd round).
 
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