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OT: World Politics

zeke said:
Is this actually happening tho
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Argentina. Italy. France. Netherlands.

all off the top of my head in the last year or less.

Israel too with bibi and the racists.

with Poland and the UK in the 'moderates win' category. maybe India too but I don't know enough to opine...
 
Italy was a couple years ago now but fine.

so you have it 4-2 there. Add Mexico to the left column.
 
Wayward DP said:
5-3 with Israel and Mexico added. May do some further digging into this topic this afternoon, genuinely curious
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okay some additional results:

Belgium - right-wing party forms government, far-right gets second most seats (i.e. top two parties were the right-wing and far-right parties)

Croatia - conservative incumbent won the most seats (60), but not an outright majority. Center-left coalition in second with 42, far right next with 14.

Finland - had presidential elections. Center-right candidate narrowly defeated the Green in a run-off.

Portugal - center-right won 80 seats. incumbent socialists down to 78 seats. far-right quadrupled its previous seat count and was in third place, with 50 seats.
 
Wayward DP said:
Finland - had presidential elections. Center-right candidate narrowly defeated the Green in a run-off.
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Wanted to inject politely on this one without delving into the rest of the conversation. Alexander Stubb is maybe (maybe) centre right by Finnish standards, but he's super progressive by ours. Massive proponent of deeper EU integration, massive supporter of Ukraine/opponent of the Kremlin, publicly calls himself a liberal, supports gay rights & is has been a financial backer of Helsinki gay pride events for ~15 years now.

If he was a Canadian politician he would somewhere on the far left of the Liberal party or centre of the NDP ideologically.
 
MindzEye said:
Wanted to inject politely on this one without delving into the rest of the conversation. Alexander Stubb is maybe (maybe) centre right by Finnish standards, but he's super progressive by ours. Massive proponent of deeper EU integration, massive supporter of Ukraine/opponent of the Kremlin, publicly calls himself a liberal, supports gay rights & is has been a financial backer of Helsinki gay pride events for ~15 years now.

If he was a Canadian politician he would somewhere on the far left of the Liberal party or centre of the NDP ideologically.
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Yeah I just relied on the reporting in the linked stories so this is likely a more accurate characterization
 
Wayward DP said:
Yeah I just relied on the reporting in the linked stories so this is likely a more accurate characterization
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Didn't read the story, but I'm going to bet I've read more of his books than the author of the story (2 is likely, likely more than the 0 they've read) and watched most of his mini essays on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@stgseries

He's not remotely "centre right" in any way recognizable to a north american.
 
Stinky said:
Nope. Houston is excellent here.

Pee Pee will end a lot of Turdropes lunacy.
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what has Houston done that you like? the biggest campaign piece was healthcare and there are now more folks without a family doctor than ever before. not to mention his complete disdain bordering on antipathy for the environment.

and does PP actually have a platform he's campaigning on? I know he has slogans (which are simple, catchy, and effective) but has he actually explained how he plans to accomplish the things he is campaigning on? (aside from using the notwithstanding clause to enact unconstitutional criminal legislation)
 
Wayward DP said:
what has Houston done that you like? the biggest campaign piece was healthcare and there are now more folks without a family doctor than ever before. not to mention his complete disdain bordering on antipathy for the environment.

and does PP actually have a platform he's campaigning on? I know he has slogans (which are simple, catchy, and effective) but has he actually explained how he plans to accomplish the things he is campaigning on? (aside from using the notwithstanding clause to enact unconstitutional criminal legislation)
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And until there is an election called he probably won’t .
 
Even after the election is called he won't. His platform just needs to be "Trudeau bad" and he wins a majority. Why muddy the waters with issues?
 
GEEMAN said:
All I read is terrible news with the far right win

What is so bad about it this outcome ?
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The two pieces of bad news is that some of the conservative support shifted to Reform (but not enough to swing vote counts much) and that parts of the conversative party are courting Farage to cross the aisle and become their new leader with some media outlets already touting him as the next prime minister because Rupert Murdoch can't get hard for much these days, but he can get hard for that.
 
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