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You're a ****ing muppet, I'm quite sure you're entirely unable to independently analyse a play. Watch the video again, and ask yourself if Backstrom overplayed the original shot. Yes, goaltenders regularly play on the white ice, but not at the sides of the crease like that. They typically keep the back of their skate on the post so they know exactly where they are...like this
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I'm not the idiot claiming Backstrom was WILDLY outside of the normal area of play for a goaltender.

Watch a ****ing game, dude.
 
Didn't know goalies can't slide out of the blue paint (even a half inch) when making a save without getting annihilated.
 
corksens said:
I'm not the idiot claiming Backstrom was WILDLY outside of the normal area of play for a goaltender.

Watch a ****ing game, dude.
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Backstrom overplayed a shot (that missed the net by a wide margin) and slid into an area that Kadri would have had no expectation that a goaltender playing the shot properly would have ended up in. It's really that simple. If Kadri had the benefit of watching Backstrom the whole way, he never makes contact. If Backstrom had been in the position shown in the other pictures (in control, moving to defend his post and not missing his angle by 3-4 feet), there would have been no contact.

It's really that simple. But he ****ed up, Kadri hit him, Kadri got suspended. Yet Lucic takes a full run at Miller, in his line of site for the entire play and makes no attempt to avoid making the hit...no call. One entirely intentional, one entirely unintentional...but we know which one you think is worse based on jersey colour.

I've now explained this as simply as I'm able to. Any failure to comprehend is entirely on you.
 
Backstrom overplayed a shot (that missed the net by a wide margin)
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It was going on net - or close to it - if Backstrom didn't deflect it with his blocker. His entire left leg is in the crease when he makes that save...
 
It's really that simple. But he ****ed up, Kadri hit him, Kadri got suspended. Yet Lucic takes a full run at Miller, in his line of site for the entire play and makes no attempt to avoid making the hit...no call. One entirely intentional, one entirely unintentional...but we know which one you think is worse based on jersey colour.
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They are totally different plays.

Miller skated to the face-off circle in an attempt to play the puck and thwart a breakaway. Backstrom was getting up after making a blocker save at the edge of his crease.
 
corksens said:
They are totally different plays.

Miller skated to the face-off circle in an attempt to play the puck and thwart a breakaway. Backstrom was getting up after making a blocker save at the edge of his crease.
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Rule 69 states that it doesn't matter where the goalie is located on the ice though and there were no changes made to Rule 69 after the Lucic on Miller hit that I can see. So why the difference?
 
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They both might be suspendable by the letter of the law - but to equate the two is totally absurd.
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If the rule states there's no distinction, then there should be no reason one was suspended for three games and one wasn't at all. It's not really absurd to equate the two - they're both illegal.
 
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Rule 69 doesn't cover suspensions, I presume? It just stipulates that it's a penalty?
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Like other infractions, there's just a vague section within Rule 69 regarding suspensions:

69.7 Fines and Suspensions - An attacking player who, in the judgment of the Referee, initiates contact with the goalkeeper, whether inside or outside the crease, in a fashion that would otherwise warrant a penalty, will be assessed an appropriate penalty (minor or major and/or game misconduct) and will be subject to additional sanctions as appropriate pursuant to Rule 28 – Supplementary Discipline.
 
Seems like the rulebook actually covers what happened between Lucic and Miller quite accurately.

69.6 Rebounds and Loose Pucks - In a rebound situation, or where a goalkeeper and attacking player(s) are simultaneously attempting to play a loose puck, whether inside or outside the crease, incidental contact with the goalkeeper will be permitted, and any goal that is scored as a result thereof will be allowed.
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What is 'incidental' is what is up for debate - but even then, there is no mention of an automatic suspension...just justification of a penalty.
 
corksens said:
Seems like the rulebook actually covers what happened between Lucic and Miller quite accurately.

What is 'incidental' is what is up for debate - but even then, there is no mention of an automatic suspension...just justification of a penalty.
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Incidental like... if Shanahan thinks Kadri was trying to make a hockey play, was looking at Lupul, and didn't run into Backstrom intentionally... which just happens to be exactly what he said in the explanation of the three game suspension?

Like I said before, what kinda annoys me about this suspension is that the explanation and the number of games given didn't seem to match up for me. In the summary, the reason for the suspension appeared to be the injury to Backstrom.

As for the bolded - of course there's not mention of an automatic number of games suspension - there isn't for hits to the head on players either. It's the same wording in the Fines and Suspensions sections more or less.
 
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Remember, I don't think NHL player safety is all that perfect.

I was calling for 1 game - and definitely don't think their review of what Kadri did was accurate.
 
corksens said:
Remember, I don't think NHL player safety is all that perfect.

I was calling for 1 game - and definitely don't think their review of what Kadri did was accurate.
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Then I'm not sure what we're arguing about. I could have stomached one game for the sake of "protecting the goalies", I just would have loved to see where that was when all the other goalie contact I've seen happen, occurred.

Lucic completely runs Miller and gets nothing, Gionta concusses Reimer on the edge of the bluepaint and gets nothing, Kadri runs into an out of position goalie while tracking a puck and gets a record suspension for goalie contact.
 
corksens said:
Remember, I don't think NHL player safety is all that perfect.

I was calling for 1 game - and definitely don't think their review of what Kadri did was accurate.
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Right, well that's the main issue taken with the Department. Shanahan says Lucic was not intentional therefore, 0 games. Shanahan says Kadri was not intentional either but 3 games. Shanahan says Cowen was accidental - seems pretty clear it wasn't. Zero consistency.
 
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