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Raise your hand if you thought Gally would score 20 this season

GrandWazoo said:
We agree on essence. Just hire the most competent person. But there is competent and incompetent people in both language.

I disagree with Savard was lucky. Sure drafting Roy, which he did, was a blessing, but he made some really shrewd moves (and some bad ones). We would have never won the first cup without Smith, or the second one without Damphousse/Muller/Bellows.
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He knew how to trade but not draft other than a few exceptions
 
Our best ever late round pick was Chris Nilan in the 19th round, 231st overall in 1978. He went on to play 688 NHL games.
 
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GrandWazoo said:
Ironically, his playoffs numbers are mediocre.

But I couldn't care less about contracts at this point, Habs are not stranded for cap space, it's been great to see the contribution from Gally and Andy this year.
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Yeah, I didn't mean "clutch" I just meant that he's a warrior that will be very useful in the playoffs.
 
GrandWazoo said:
And they missed on Bossy and Denis as well.
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They preferred Napier's 200 foot game and pro experience in the WHA. Bossy was small, not at all physical, and played in the Q, which was considered vastly inferior to the OHA and WHL.

And let's face it. The Wickenheiser over Savard pick only looks bad in retrospect. At the time Wickenheoser was the consensus #1 pick. Savard went 3rd, not 2nd but had the Habs picked anyone else at #1 Wickenheiser would have gone 2nd and fans at the time would be vilifying the Habs for their stupidity and saying that the Jets had made the steal of a lifetime by having Wick fall into their laps.
 
there is no justification whatsoever for Napier over Bossy, none. It was based on 1 scouting report which said Bossy was afraid of the corners.

Al Arbour said it best, I can teach defence, I can't teach goal scoring
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
They preferred Napier's 200 foot game and pro experience in the WHA. Bossy was small, not at all physical, and played in the Q, which was considered vastly inferior to the OHA and WHL.

And let's face it. The Wickenheiser over Savard pick only looks bad in retrospect. At the time Wickenheoser was the consensus #1 pick. Savard went 3rd, not 2nd but had the Habs picked anyone else at #1 Wickenheiser would have gone 2nd and fans at the time would be vilifying the Habs for their stupidity and saying that the Jets had made the steal of a lifetime by having Wick fall into their laps.
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Dont remember that far back but was Wick the hands down #1 consensus pick ?

I thought it was like the Seguin/ vs Hall ...take your pick
 
GEEMAN said:
Dont remember that far back but was Wick the hands down #1 consensus pick ?

I thought it was like the Seguin/ vs Hall ...take your pick
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Nooo. It was only Wickenheiser. No one else was in da mix.

In 3 seasons as a member of the Regina Pats, Wickenheiser posted seasons of 88, 94 and 170 points. He had 89 goals in his last WHL season. You had to be Nostradamus not to believe that he would become a franchise player. No one was shocked that the Habs took him and not Denis Savard because despite Savard's gaudy numbers in Verdun, the prevailing wisdom was (and not for no good reason, I might add) that the QMJHL was a pantywaist league by comparison to the OHL and WHL so anything a kid did there was artificially inflated and would likely not be repeatable in the NHL.

Also, Wickenheiser was a big, physical specimen at a time in NHL history when being big was often its own reward. All other things being equal you would always draft the big kid over the smaller kid and Denis Savard was really small in comparison to Wickenheiser.
 
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