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Very true, but I would suggest that when one thinks of the Montreal Canadiens that Richard / Beliveau / Lafleur will jump to mind before Roy or Dryden
 
Rocket Man74 said:
Very true, but I would suggest that when one thinks of the Montreal Canadiens that Richard / Beliveau / Lafleur will jump to mind before Roy or Dryden
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Yeah, not even close. Also. Price never won a Cup here. Not his fault obviously but still . . . It is what it is.
 
Rocket Man74 said:
Guy was my hockey hero growing up, so sad that he is gone. Now there are no more living Habs legends left: Rocket, Beliveau, Lafleur are all gone. Sure, Montreal has had many great players and Hall of Famers, but those three are the ones that represent the Franchise the most
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Even more sad to think that we haven’t had a franchise player since Lafleur. Goalies don’t count in my book.
 
Krustchev said:
Never understood Lemaire’s hatred of Guy by the ‘84-‘85 season. I think it’s a real stain on Jacques’ legacy.
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Guy's impact and skills had slipped years before that, no question. He had a hard time accepting that. The team was stale, had disappointed in the playoffs, and needed a shakeup. Lemaire came in, changed the style, and immediately improved the team-we won a couple of playoff rounds in 83-84, and the Cup the year after Guy left, when Lemaire's influence on the style was still a factor.

Still, the ending in Montreal was all just a little bit sad. Both sides probably played a part.
 
east coast said:
Guy's impact and skills had slipped years before that, no question. He had a hard time accepting that. The team was stale, had disappointed in the playoffs, and needed a shakeup. Lemaire came in, changed the style, and immediately improved the team-we won a couple of playoff rounds in 83-84, and the Cup the year after Guy left, when Lemaire's influence on the style was still a factor.

Still, the ending in Montreal was all just a little bit sad. Both sides probably played a part.
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Pat Boutette knee-on-knee vs Whalers in playoffs, was the catalyst for the rapid decline.

Still can’t get over Grundman & Pollock (he of Habs Board of Directors version) not willing to swap Lafleur for Gretzky when approached by Sather prior to start of 1979-1980 inaugural season for Oilers…
 
Krustchev said:
Never understood Lemaire’s hatred of Guy by the ‘84-‘85 season. I think it’s a real stain on Jacques’ legacy.
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Lemaire had issues with high end offensive players his entire coaching career, look not further than Gaborik issues in Minny
 
Sal_Butera said:
Pat Boutette knee-on-knee vs Whalers in playoffs, was the catalyst for the rapid decline.

Still can’t get over Grundman & Pollock (he of Habs Board of Directors version) not willing to swap Lafleur for Gretzky when approached by Sather prior to start of 1979-1980 inaugural season for Oilers…
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What!?!?!
 
east coast said:
Guy's impact and skills had slipped years before that, no question. He had a hard time accepting that. The team was stale, had disappointed in the playoffs, and needed a shakeup. Lemaire came in, changed the style, and immediately improved the team-we won a couple of playoff rounds in 83-84, and the Cup the year after Guy left, when Lemaire's influence on the style was still a factor.

Still, the ending in Montreal was all just a little bit sad. Both sides probably played a part.
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He was coming off a 30 goals 70 points season. Lemaire essentially kicked him off the team. Sad and disrespectful.
 
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Sal_Butera said:
Pat Boutette knee-on-knee vs Whalers in playoffs, was the catalyst for the rapid decline.

Still can’t get over Grundman & Pollock (he of Habs Board of Directors version) not willing to swap Lafleur for Gretzky when approached by Sather prior to start of 1979-1980 inaugural season for Oilers…
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Plus, that car crash that he had in March 81 probably did not help either
 
GrandWazoo said:
He was coming off a 30 goals 70 points season. Lemaire essentially kicked him off the team. Sad and disrespectful.
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I can remember a Hockey News interview with Lafleur right after he had played his last game in the Forum as a member of the Nords in 91 and he mentioned that the one thing he regretted about retiring back in 85 was that he did not ask for a trade, but felt that he could not do that to the organization at the time
 
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Krustchev said:
Never understood Lemaire’s hatred of Guy by the ‘84-‘85 season. I think it’s a real stain on Jacques’ legacy.
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Guy was flamboyant, Jacques wasn’t. I remember lemaire chewing his kid out for gloating on a HR. My buddies and I were about 10 and it stuck with me.

So if I had to guess it was a character clash.
 
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