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The 2019-2020 MotherFucking Season Thread

"Kyle went above and beyond his duty," Dan Milstein, the player’s agent, told Sportsnet in an interview.

That included not only spending the better part of three days keeping him company in hospital, but also going out to personally buy him clothes and other personal effects, according to Milstein.
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S'o the second-year Leafs GM cancelled a scouting trip, cleared his calendar and joined assistant athletic trainer Jon Geller at the New Jersey hospital two nights after Christmas.

Once Mikheyev came out of surgery and got some rest, they filled the hours watching sports together. That included Russia’s 6-0 win over Canada at the world junior tournament and the Leafs’ 5-4 overtime loss to the New York Rangers on Saturday night.
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The agent has KHL free agents currently drawing significant NHL interest for next season and has made sure they’re all aware of the humanity the Leafs exhibited with Mikheyev, telling them: "You should know how Toronto took care of this particular accident."
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"I’ve been saying this since long ago: The Maple Leafs as an organization, the way they recruit is almost like college recruiting," said Milstein. "Many (other) teams would say ‘Yeah, well they can afford to do it.’

"But caring for somebody and treating people like this doesn’t cost any money. Showing support, showing you care, is about a lot more than money."
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JackBurton said:
I have long suggested male Leaf fans are often upset at how good-looking he is and his perfect hair. And I am not joking. If he had missing teeth and was bald he'd be accepted a little better. His summer photos of wearing stylish clothes and eating fancy food in Europe don't help either. He's the exact opposite of what people who loved Tie Domi value.
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You're probably not wrong about this.

On top of that, simply being a skilled European who doesn't play a physical style makes it an almost impossible uphill battle to win over large segments of the fanbase in Toronto. Look at all the shit Mats went through even though he was consistently one of the league's elite centers.
 
LeafGm said:
The holdout and his subsequent struggles last year exacerbated the Willy hate, no doubt. But let's not pretend the hate didn't predate last season for a good chunk of "average Leaf fans" and the media that cover the team.

For most of his Leaf career he's been a whipping boy, and the first trade chip dummies started reaching for when they wanted to pontificate about how badly we needed to trade some of our high-end skill up front for "toughness" or "help on defense".
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It started the moment he was drafted, IIRC. Lead by none other the the Grand Poobah of the Brotherhood of Mouth Breathers, Don Cherry, crying his face off about passing over Nick Richie.

I'm pretty sure you would find a near 1 to 1 correlation between Willy haters and Don Cherry fans.
 
BeLeafer said:
It started the moment he was drafted, IIRC. Lead by none other the the Grand Poobah of the Brotherhood of Mouth Breathers, Don Cherry, crying his face off about passing over Nick Richie.

I'm pretty sure you would find a near 1 to 1 correlation between Willy haters and Don Cherry fans.
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Yeah, 100%. Cherry got the hate kick-started immediately. But I always enjoyed how quickly the Ritchie/Nylander comparison became hilarious for those of us in the pro-Nylander camp.

Almost 300 games into his NHL career, and the dude's cracked the 30-point mark once. And this year, he's currently scoring at a 9-goal/30-point pace. But hey, he's two inches taller & 35 lbs. heavier than Willy, he's a Tranna-boy and he's physical, so obviously he's better.
 
These same people are shitting on Auston fucking Matthews for being an inconsistent, soft floater. Willy doesn't stand a chance.
 
LeafGm said:
Yeah, 100%. Cherry got the hate kick-started immediately. But I always enjoyed how quickly the Ritchie/Nylander comparison became hilarious for those of us in the pro-Nylander camp.

Almost 300 games into his NHL career, and the dude's cracked the 30-point mark once. And this year, he's currently scoring at a 9-goal/30-point pace. But hey, he's two inches taller & 35 lbs. heavier than Willy, he's a Tranna-boy and he's physical, so obviously he's better.
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Exhibit A for why you never listen to these knuckle-draggers.

Yet they keep going on and on with it.

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It's like the Leafs should be like the Habs with French players, and just draft any Tranna boy.
You don't waste a high pick on someone like Ritchie. Brian Burke would have totally done that.
 
I think you guys overstate the percentage of fans that undervalue our players. Most of our players are softish skilled guys now, and the fans en masse seem pretty wild for them all. Each time a new guy comes up, they get embraced. I’m sure there’s no shortage of Marner and Willy jerseys being sold. Just as I never felt this supposed lack of appreciation for Sundin or other great talents.

I think the vast majority of the fanbase puts Sundin on a pedestal, just as they do the big 3. And these random losers with time on their hands that call into the radio shows or blow up Twitter are just some minuscule fraction of the fans.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I think you guys overstate the percentage of fans that undervalue our players. Most of our players are softish skilled guys now, and the fans en masse seem pretty wild for them all. Each time a new guy comes up, they get embraced. I’m sure there’s no shortage of Marner and Willy jerseys being sold. Just as I never felt this supposed lack of appreciation for Sundin or other great talents.

I think the vast majority of the fanbase puts Sundin on a pedestal, just as they do the big 3. And these random losers with time on their hands that call into the radio shows or blow up Twitter are just some minuscule fraction of the fans.
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I think you don't live in market and haven't for a long time.
 
Sure, but I did during most of the Sundin years and all the years prior. If you guys were just referring to now, then yeah, no idea. But all the years I was there, everyone I knew loved the best players most. To lump Clark in there as some grunt is unfair because he was legit one of the best players too. But Domi? Sure, a fan favorite but not like anyone liked him more than Mats.
 
Deckie007 said:
You sure you were here at the time? The amount of idiots that wanted Domi as the captain over Sundin was pathetic.
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Yeah Sundin was known as the soft Euro that wasn't a winner to at least half the fanbase. At least half. Until he retired of course.
 
Preston said:
I think the thing is, the LOFs and 2005s of the world kinda represent the market.
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I see you're following through with your resolution to go back to being an instigating idiot in 2020.

You realize my point was that Sundin was my favorite player and everyone else's that I knew? Shouldn't be too difficult for you to understand. Even you.
 
Deckie007 said:
You sure you were here at the time? The amount of idiots that wanted Domi as the captain over Sundin was pathetic.
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I was there till 2000. Like I said, other than some moron callers into radio shows, I don't know of anyone that actually valued Domi as a player more than Sundin. I mean, you're talking about a guy who scored 500 goals as a Leaf. Nobody thought a knuckle dragger with 15 points a season was more valuable on any front. Even though he initially hated the trade (like most did purely out of emotion at first) and criticized him here and there, even Don Cherry openly loved Mats.
 
Preston said:
I said you represent the market. I didn't say you were hitler. Calm down.
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Dude, fuck off. Literally almost everything I say ends up being true, even when the precious nerd stats don't support me and every single poster is against me. If you're under the impression that you're funny, you're not, so just give it a rest.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
If you're under the impression that you're funny, you're not, so just give it a rest.
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What? I said you represent the Toronto market. That would be an all-time worst joke, even by my standards. You're on edge today. Take a break. For once I didn't even do anything.
 
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