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The Fantastically Beautiful Joyously Superfun 22-23 Season Celebration Thread

leafman101 said:
They needed $ to activate Murray from LTIR after the McCabe trade and before they had 9 D. After they had 9D they just needed more $.

They traded Sandin and Engvall ($3.625 mill) added Schenn/Gus ($1.65 mill), and were left with $850k in cap space. The remaining $1.125 mill was the amount they were over the cap. Someone had to go regardless of Schenn.
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Yes, they weakened their forwards to keep NINE ACTIVE DMEN.
 
imagine running both Sandin and Liljegren, two of your meagre pile of draft successes to boot, out of town so that you can play Boosh and Luke Schenn.

this better work.
 
I don't know.. It would be like if the Canes benched Slavin for Luke Schenn in his 2nd/3rd year of his career. He was playing #1 d minutes at that point. I agree that most coaches are neanderthals and dumb but this one feels special.
 
zeke said:
Yes, they weakened their forwards to keep NINE ACTIVE DMEN.
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even more frustrating cause we already had Benn through waivers and I'm not convinced Schenn is any better than Benn. Or not enough better to justify dumping Engvall and/or Ras over.
 
I still think there's a chance he cracks the lineup over Holl but it's still pretty hilarious that their 2nd best d is a bubble guy and fighting for his life with Holl. All while Schenn is a mainstay.

As zeke already said, it's good to see that people are no longer in denial that this was always gonna happen.
 
Preston said:
I still think there's a chance he cracks the lineup over Holl but it's still pretty hilarious that their 2nd best d is a bubble guy and fighting for his life with Holl. All while Schenn is a mainstay.

As zeke already said, it's good to see that people are no longer in denial that this was always gonna happen.
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Meanwhile the Avs played Byram 25 mins a game on their shut down pair in the finals.
 
JackBurton said:
Sandin has 5 points in 2 games. Why not just play him? Why is Lillys toi so low?
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I swear, this is going to kill me. It’s going to be up there with the fucking Courtnall trade. Why the FUCK did they do this?? And half of you didn’t like him. Jesus fucking Christ. This is the first time I’m sort of feeling hate for this team. That’s one of the worst trades we’ve ever made.
 
Killer93 said:
I am not as high on Engvall as some on here; however the Sandin move made no sense IMO. Even if he did request a trade; we essentially downgraded our team for a future asset that we did not use for our current run. Why?
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If he did, he didn’t request it to escape the winters or some shit. Poor fucking kid just wanted to play and knew he was better than dead weight like Muzz or a whatever guy in Holl. Probably better than Rielly at like 1/7 the cost. Fucking idiots.
 
leafman101 said:
They needed $ to keep eight too.

Salary had to go before Schenn. Again could've been a dman like Holl/Sandin/Lilly too.
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Why do you keep saying this? They had other shit they could’ve dumped. UFA shit they could’ve dumped. Dumping Sandin to play probably 4 guys worse than him instead, and keeping out Lilly who is better than all of them? This is a special brand of stupidity.
 
Preston said:
Honestly I think pretty lowly of Keefe but this one is puzzling to me. I thought it was pretty clear that he's arguably their best or 2nd best d. Like I thought his play this year made it completely obvious, no? How are they considering him a bubble guy because they acquired LUKE FUCKING SCHENN.
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Preston said:
I can't recall a coach missing the mark so badly on a player of Liljegren's caliber though. This one feels especially loony to me.
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Especially since Lilly has been a head down / work hard / don’t complain team first guy.
 
Artnes said:
Keefe is a dummy and is easily replaceable but his eventual replacement will also be a dummy and will be easily replaceable.

The cycle of making dumb decisions because of leader beans will continue until the end of time
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Not sure it’s leadership as much as org theory, behaviour and character.

lots of data out there about how personalities impact the workplace. And I know for a fact that some of the leagues most successful organizations have put a huge emphasis on this stuff.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Why do you keep saying this? They had other shit they could’ve dumped. UFA shit they could’ve dumped. Dumping Sandin to play probably 4 guys worse than him instead, and keeping out Lilly who is better than all of them? This is a special brand of stupidity.
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Zeke just keeps disagreeing that they were over the cap after the McCabe trade for some reason.

I never said they should dump Sandin. They could've dumped Engvall, Kampf, Holl, Kerfoot, any number of guys.

Sandin was the dumbest option.
 
The real issue is Dubas tries to be so nice to everyone. This guy said "sure" when Sandin asked out, It's ridiculous. Say no....WTF?
And take a fine and rip the NHL for once, Kyle.
 
leafman101 said:
Zeke just keeps disagreeing that they were over the cap after the McCabe trade for some reason.

I never said they should dump Sandin. They could've dumped Engvall, Kampf, Holl, Kerfoot, any number of guys.

Sandin was the dumbest option.
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Kerfoot has always been the right one to move. When the forward group was healthy, on merit he would be a 4th line winger that we could easily have replaced.

Should have trusted the kids.

Bunting-Matthews-Nylander
Holmberg-Tavares-Marner
Engvall-ROR-Jarnkrok
Lafferty-Kampf-Acciari

and if you just can't bring yourself to trust Holmberg (who has the hands and IQ to not be an offensive anchor with JT and Mitch, but whatever)

Bunting-Matthews-Nylander
Jarnkrok-Tavares-Marner
Engvall-ROR-Acciari
Holmberg/McMann-Kampf-Lafferty

There's no good argument for shoe horning Kerfoot in there...he's not a better middle 6 winger than Engvall or even Acciari and whatever benefit he brings when pushed to the 4th line is minimal and likely easily replaced by Holmberg or McMann. This is such a flop of an evaluation by the organization (an organization that is starting to show itself as habitually making eval mistakes). All of this fucking about...again...to keep a 3.5 million dollar baby shit soft passenger in the lineup. Don't even need him on the PK anymore either with the additions of ROR, Acciari, & Lafferty.
 
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