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The Fucking Offseason Thread - Why bother waiting?

leafman101 said:


This is actually a great way to think about goaltending. The Leafs are a top xGA team, so they just need a goalie that stops xGA at an average/above average level, and they are a top defensive team, which Mrazek has been over the last few years. Don't need a Hellebucyk/Vasy and really don't need an Andersen that gets you below water.
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My concern is that 19/20, he wasn't "closer to average", he was bad but only just bad.

I get that we're just looking for the other half of a tandem though and the goalie market is what it is, after Driedger signed, there wasn't a whole lot of upside left unless you're going long on Grubauer
 
leafman101 said:


This is actually a great way to think about goaltending. The Leafs are a top xGA team, so they just need a goalie that stops xGA at an average/above average level, and they are a top defensive team, which Mrazek has been over the last few years. Don't need a Hellebucyk/Vasy and really don't need an Andersen that gets you below water.
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either way he seems a very safe bet to beat Fred's .895.

question is now can campbell keep up the .915++ to give us a top goalie duo or if he falls back to average and we just have two average goalies.
 
zeke said:
either way he seems a very safe bet to beat Fred's .895.

question is now can campbell keep up the .915++ to give us a top goalie duo or if he falls back to average and we just have two average goalies.
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And as lof points out if jack is still a 915+ guy they may be shopping for a new goalie again next year! So in a way two average goalies is ok and keeps them affordable at least?
 
last 3yrs, dfsv%, (min 20gms):

1. Driedger 35gms, +1.08
2. Nedeljovic 28gms, +1.00
3. Bishop 90gms, +0.76
4. Lehner 101gms, +0.71
5. Mrazek 92gms, +0.53
6. Shesterkin 47gms, +0.52
7. Petersen 54gms, +0.49
8. Hellebuyck 166gms, +0.39
9. Brossoit 54gms, +0.37
10. Sorokin 22gms, +0.35
11. Kuemper 111gms, +0.34
12. Campbell 79gms, +0.33
13. Binnington 124gms, +0.33
14. Saros 107gms, +0.29
15. Crawford 79gms, +0.26
 
So, is Mrazek going to have a chance to come out of camp as the #1 from the get go?
Is the #1 spot Jack's to lose?
 
zeke said:
last 3yrs, dfsv%, (min 20gms):

1. Driedger 35gms, +1.08
2. Nedeljovic 28gms, +1.00
3. Bishop 90gms, +0.76
4. Lehner 101gms, +0.71
5. Mrazek 92gms, +0.53
6. Shesterkin 47gms, +0.52
7. Petersen 54gms, +0.49
8. Hellebuyck 166gms, +0.39
9. Brossoit 54gms, +0.37
10. Sorokin 22gms, +0.35
11. Kuemper 111gms, +0.34
12. Campbell 79gms, +0.33
13. Binnington 124gms, +0.33
14. Saros 107gms, +0.29
15. Crawford 79gms, +0.26
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in terms of sample size here only one goalie here was a full time starter for that whole time - hellebuyck.

a number of them were part time starters - Bishop, Lehner, Mrazek, Kuemper, Campbell, Binnington, Saros, Crawford.

a bunch of them were backups or tiny sample guys - Driedger, Nedeljovic, Shesterkin, Petersen, Brossoit, Sorokin.
 
leafman101 said:
Think they'll go with a true tandem. I'd expect a 40/40 split unless one guy sucks.
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Not sure how i really feel about that.
For me, i'd like to see the top spot given to Mrazek. I think Jack is best suited for the #2 position.
But that's just me..i know a lot of people see jack as a true #1 but not me.
 
Kritter said:
Not sure how i really feel about that.
For me, i'd like to see the top spot given to Mrazek. I think Jack is best suited for the #2 position.
But that's just me..i know a lot of people see jack as a true #1 but not me.
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Not sure that either are "true #1s" honestly. I think they'll have a situation with 2 goalies that have shown capable of playing 30-40 games and going on extended runs as a starter, and they can just rotate them and play the hot hand/rest the cold hand.
 
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